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洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee)@lemmy.ml to Fediverse@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 个月前

Two Approaches to Solving the “Quiet Fediverse” Problem: Conversation Backfilling Mechanisms

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Two Approaches to Solving the “Quiet Fediverse” Problem: Conversation Backfilling Mechanisms

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洪 民憙 (Hong Minhee)@lemmy.ml to Fediverse@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 个月前
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Two Approaches to Solving the "Quiet Fediverse" Problem: Conversation Backfilling Mechanisms
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This post addresses the "quiet fediverse" problem, where users encounter fragmented conversations with missing replies in decentralized social networks. It explores the underlying causes related to the distributed nature of the ActivityPub protocol, which scatters conversations across different servers. The author delves into two primary approaches to solve this issue: reply tree crawling and the context owner-based method. Reply tree crawling involves fetching all replies to reconstruct the conversation, while the context owner method relies on a designated owner to manage and provide the complete conversation. The post examines the technical mechanisms, advantages, and disadvantages of each approach, including real-world implementations and ongoing debates within the fediverse community. It also touches on additional backfill mechanisms like periodic crawling, user-triggered backfills, and mention-based discovery. Ultimately, the author advocates for a hybrid approach that combines multiple strategies to enhance conversation completeness and user experience, highlighting the importance of ongoing standardization efforts and collaborative implementations within the fediverse. This article provides valuable insights into the challenges and potential solutions for creating a more connected and coherent social networking experience in decentralized environments.
  • INeedMana@lemmy.world
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    I think that the problem is not with propagation, but that we don’t get notifications about other comments under a post we commented on.

    What’s more, if this comment gets an answer, and then someone will comment that answer, I will not be informed of that branch of discussion

    • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Have you tried the “New comments” sort?

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        I mean the notification about new, unread message. Sort won’t solve that, I observe too many communities

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          Piefed has more granular notifications. Voyager is also recently supported

          !piefed_meta@piefed.social

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            I’ll check Voyager out, thanks. But still, I suspect most of Lemmy uses the default UI

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              The Piefed web UI is similar to Lemmy. As usual, people have options

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                Somehow I haven’t encountered piefed yet. Does it have an option to group the communities one follows? So I could see not only posts in communities I subscribed to, but also only from the ones I’ve put in, for example, “news” group?

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                  Exactly, it has feeds (so what your describe), that can be private or public

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