• finder@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    pro-genocide candidate

    You realize Trump supports Russia (genocide of Ukrainians and minority ethnicities) and gave Israel the green light to continue on. Right?

    Trump wants to start a war with Canada and Greenland. Right?

    Seems like you fully support genocide. Despite having the audacity to claim otherwise.

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      6 months ago

      I don’t support Trump & didn’t vote for him. Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter? Maybe you should have been more critical of Democrats prior to the election & we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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        6 months ago

        Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter?

        idk calling the Democratic candidate “Pro-Genocide” (They are not, no matter how much you claim they are), while letting the literal pro-genocide candidate off scott free.

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          Lol, you had the Biden “proud Zionist” admin literally vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire. Instead every answer was “we’ll always stand by Israel & give them money to continue.” Clearly if you believe that isn’t pro genocide then you’re living in a different pretend reality.

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            The Biden admin has been working with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, HAMAS, and Israel to actually establish a real ceasefire agreement.

            Biden’s administration has been seeking a resolution that will end the blood shed. Trump’s administration is suggesting and supporting the outright REMOVAL of Palestinians. It’s not hard to see that.

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              You’ll never win this argument on Lemmy. The population here “know” that “genocide Joe” was the key enabler of Israel’s aggression and they can’t see nuance

              As I see it Biden couldn’t disarm Israel as Israel disarmed would be obliterated, and that’s political suicide in America

              Of course a Democrat government was lending whatever diplomatic weight they could to establishing lasting peace in the middle east - that would be a popular win if they succeeded

              I lost a tiktok watching friend over this

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                they can’t see nuance

                Na, they got something else going on.

                I’ve already gotten a few to explicitly say that the people mascaraed on October 7thdeserved it” or" “the Jews zionists did it”. Not to mention the few people who said “peace with the Jew zionist is impossible” and then follow up by citing the PLO’s One-State solution as the way to create “peace”.

                I’m not arguing with them to win, I hope my comments are more of a counter point for reasonable people reading these comments. Not sure how well it works, but oh well.

                As I see it Biden couldn’t disarm Israel as Israel disarmed would be obliterated, and that’s political suicide in America

                Yep, and without a reasonable administration Israel will face zero opposition to the actions they are taking and want to take.

                That is why I don’t care about ‘winning’ these arguments.

                And also sometimes, I’m just pissed that these people view this conflict in black and white, at best.