I think maybe it’s begun, the bigger fiercer backlash against the Trump Administration which is itself a violent backlash against every good thing that’s happened over the past several decades – the advance of rights for nature, women, children, indigenous peoples, BIPOC and immigrants/refugees, queer people, trans people, people with disabilities, workers, the right of us all to be free from being poisoned by food, water, air. It’s begun in Los Angeles, the city of angels, a city of almost four million people, almost half of them Latino, in a region of almost twelve million that two thousand California National Guards cannot and will not subjugate. All they can do is punish and incite, and I hope that some of the protesters are telling them they’re violating their mission and maybe the law. In the nonwhite-majority state of California, which recently advanced to become the fourth largest economy in the world.

We are escalating because they are escalating. But as a smart guy on BlueSky noted, he’s “seeing a massive divide online between Angelenos of all political stripes who understand that the protests in LA yesterday were mostly peaceful and any violence was ICE-initiated and East Coast establishment liberals lecturing ‘the left’ on how riots just amplify right wing talking points.” This is familiar ground, the idea that no matter what the right does, however much the systematic violence harms us, however horrible a police murder or another violation of human rights such as ICE’s grabbing people off the street, we have the responsibility to remain not just peaceful but peaceful in a way that pleases our enemies. It becomes collective responsibility and collective guilt because even if a few people in a few places torch something or break something it’s supposed to indict the whole movement, and has often been used to justify more institutional violence.

Here it’s also useful to make a distinction between property damage (which protesters in the USA in our era have done from time to time) and harming living beings (which is largely something done by law enforcement in these demonstrations). Property destruction can be dramatic theater (suffragists in early twentieth-century London broke all the plate glass windows on a stretch of shopping street; no living beings were at risk), can be actual protection (the firefighters taking an axe to the door to rescue the people from the blaze), or acts of intimidation (the husband breaking the furniture to convey to his wife he can break her too). All I’ve read about so far in L.A. is property damage by protestrs, while we’ve seen many kinds of violence and intimidation from the heavily armored and armed thugs serving the Trump Administration’s war on immigrants.

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    The Right will shame us for any form of violence, in order to maintain their own monopoly on violence.

    It’s not just expected, it’s accepted by both the Left and Right that right-wingers will use the threat of violent force to their ends, but if anyone opposes that force with their own, the Right will claim they are unreasonable and evil. This is the simple manifestation of White Supremacy as an ingrained mindset, where the same actions that a WASP man takes are wrong for anyone else to, because they are lesser.

    We have to move past the half-skeleton Democrats in congress lecturing us because they too have internalized this dynamic. As much as I love Bernie, AOC is correct in actively choosing not to publicly lecture protesters against using whatever means they have to protect human lives and democracy, and in pointing out that MLK only succeeded because the white government was scared of what might happen if they didn’t negotiate with him.

    Trump is going to escalate no matter what we do, until this country is nothing but a white christian ethnostate run by a succession of white male conservative dictators. This is not a negotiation, because he’s not going to negotiate.

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    Honestly a shame we don’t have System of A Down or Rage Against the Machine any longer.

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    “institutional violence”… An interesting misspelling of “collective punishment”

    I saw one video of a dude whipping a water bottle at a cop. Bottle chucker got immediately tackled by another protestor.