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cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/177705 [https://50501.chat/post/177705] > > > > — > Originally Posted By u/transcendent167 At 2025-05-02 10:43:07 AM | Source [https://r.50501.chat/r/50501/comments/1kd2onw] > > —

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog/6777

Most of the removals are for being “off topic”, but one removal cites rules against disrespect and liberalism. The mod maintains that a leftist meme community isn’t the place for political debate.

  • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Drag believes the mod’s comment shutting down criticism of slop is pro-slop propaganda; slopaganda.

    Gen AI has no place in leftist movements. It’s owned by capital.

    • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Tbh that just shows Drag doesn’t understand leftism very deeply.

      1. Being anti-AI is an intrinsically reactionary position to hold.
      2. Leftists should be trying to seize the means of production, not trying to destroy them.
      3. The anti-AI movement puts heavy emphasis on the impact on artists, but most leftists don’t believe in copyright or the ownership/privatization of ideas and that includes things like art. Artists absolutely should be publicly funded and properly compensated for their work. But simply fighting against AI tooling will accomplish nothing, and arguably serves to perpetuates copyright rent-seeking by corporations and individuals.
      4. Fighting against or banning the use of AI tools in leftist spaces will accomplish nothing, except to give the capitalists an advantage over leftists. The genie is already out of the bottle. AI tooling, although incredibly annoying in some aspects (such as when it gets inserted into fucking notepad) is also extremely powerful and useful for certain applications. Why would we want to fight with a hand tied behind our backs over some romantic idyll of pre-gen AI times?
      5. A hammer can be a tool or a weapon. Same with AI. Nobody is talking about banning hammers, despite the fact they are often used as weapons or for nefarious purposes.
      6. The anti-AI movement is primitivist and regressive in nature. It hearkens back to the “good old days” when artists were well compensated by rich patrons, and artisans and skilled craftsmen filled every small town. It’s a fantasy that never really existed, and one that will never exist under capitalism.
      7. FOSS AI projects are available such as Db0’s AI Horde which seeks to democratic access to GenAI. There is no requirement to use corporate tooling.
      • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
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        1 month ago
        1. Your source is you made it the fuck up
        2. You want to seize the coal mines? The casinos? Nuclear bombs? Some things are bad and we don’t want them.
        3. We live in the real world. You’ll have a point after the communist revolution.
        4. AI art makes the movement look weak and pointless. That picture has 0s on dollar bills. It looks bad, and every leftist who told you it looks bad, you shut down. You’re the one enforcing that leftism has to represented by low quality art that makes us look bad.
        5. The only times drag has ever seen gen AI used slightly well - useful product, no glaring mistakes, low carbon cost, distinct artistic vision - is for porn. Drag has seen some extremely good AI dragon tiddies. That’s it. If a hammer’s only legitmate use were cock and ball torture, drag would still want them banned from serious spaces.
        6. Your source is you made it the fuck up.
        7. That’s an old anti-vegan argument. Drag’s seen a lot of carnists who said it’s okay to eat eggs, because some farmers treat their chickens well. Sure, if drag visited a friend with a chicken coop and saw the chickens and they were happy, drag would eat that friend’s omelette. But if drag sees an omelette on a restaurant menu, drag assumes those eggs come from a factory farm where chickens have to be debeaked to stop them from autocannibalising due to stress. Your meme with the reddit watermark is like the restaurant omelette. It’s probably from a corporation. So it’s bad. Also drag is a vegan and against all enslavement of nonhuman experiential beings.

        Also, drag’s pronouns aren’t capitalised. It’s a lowercase D unless at the start of a sentence. Drag doesn’t want to be treated like a god. You’re also not supposed to get into drama you’re involved with on this community.