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It’s never been about providing a useful service. It was always meant as a distraction to kill high speed rail initiatives.
He goes into it in the video, but the Las vegas monorail runs to many of the same locations, is cash positive, and is the 13th most used mass transit system in the US.
The issue in Vegas is that mass transit doesn’t fit a “luxury” experience that every bit of vegas is trying to sell you to fleece your pockets. The loop, especially the “new” stops that are literally benches outside of hotels with no tunnels, don’t either, but the “private chauffeur” pitch of the Tesla tunnels at least fit the grift.
i expect the monorail to be attacked by attrition intended policies to help foster traffic towards the loop
Based on the most recent article I can find with the head of the monorail system, you’re right:
How do the Monorail and the Vegas Loop complement each other? What’s the future of the monorail? Are there plans to get another leg of that going?
What we plan to do is run the Monorail the way it is, until we can’t anymore. What will almost certainly determine that is the trains wearing out. We’ve got nine trains, if we were going to replace them right now it would probably be a $300 million purchase, and we can’t afford to do that. Nobody else could either. Once that stops, our plan is to use the monorail structure, the stanchions, take the track off and put a two-lane road on top of the monorail and tie it into the (underground Vegas Loop) system.
Any guesses of the Monorail lifespan?
We keep saying eight or 10 years.
There were some light rail conversations on and off for maybe the past decade. Would light rail help?
Taking a lane off the Strip for light rail seems counterproductive. The properties have never supported it. And if you don’t take the traffic away, then I don’t know that light rail speeds anything up. I mean, if you’re able to run in the same lane as the train, then I don’t know (if) that does you a whole lot of good. But it’s a very expensive system to put in. One of the real benefits of (the underground system) is it’s free. The Boring Company is paying for all the tunnels, and the properties are paying for all the stations. There’s no public money going into the system.
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It was attacked already, as it was languishing in some mix of private/public ownership, but is now recently all public.
It’s on the upswing. There are talks of expansion, likely because it’s actually in use.
i wasn’t aware that this happened; do you have a link to an article somewhere explaining it?
Nope, I was wrong entirely. I deleted my comment and added the below in. Youre dead on about vegas killing it for the loop:
Based on the most recent article I can find with the head of the monorail system, you’re right:
How do the Monorail and the Vegas Loop complement each other? What’s the future of the monorail? Are there plans to get another leg of that going?
What we plan to do is run the Monorail the way it is, until we can’t anymore. What will almost certainly determine that is the trains wearing out. We’ve got nine trains, if we were going to replace them right now it would probably be a $300 million purchase, and we can’t afford to do that. Nobody else could either. Once that stops, our plan is to use the monorail structure, the stanchions, take the track off and put a two-lane road on top of the monorail and tie it into the (underground Vegas Loop) system.
Any guesses of the Monorail lifespan?
We keep saying eight or 10 years.
There were some light rail conversations on and off for maybe the past decade. Would light rail help?
Taking a lane off the Strip for light rail seems counterproductive. The properties have never supported it. And if you don’t take the traffic away, then I don’t know that light rail speeds anything up. I mean, if you’re able to run in the same lane as the train, then I don’t know (if) that does you a whole lot of good. But it’s a very expensive system to put in. One of the real benefits of (the underground system) is it’s free. The Boring Company is paying for all the tunnels, and the properties are paying for all the stations. There’s no public money going into the system.
the news is bearable when i believe that my inner pessimist’s predictions are wrong and the people of lemmy are very good at reinforcing this; so i’m displeased to learn that he was right, but i’m glad you made me aware nonetheless. thank you.
if it the rail’s demise happens anything like the star trek experience’s demise; it won’t matter that rail is still popular and/or effective. in the nearish future, one of the parties involved with its future planning will introduce a poison pill (like that $300 million price tag) within the negotiations intended to make the whole thing fall apart and it then it’ll be gone.
the amount of time before it happens depends on whether or not a well intention-ed democrat can retake control over paradise/las-vegas and that’s dependent on whether or not the democrats can effectively distance themselves from their support of the genocide/ethnic-cleansing/weaponized-starvation to make american voters to memory hole it even more.
What jumps out almost immediately is that it does not appear to be a loop. Were it a loop, you could have more than one car going around. Should it not at the bare minimum satisfy its own naming criteria?
wait don’t tell me that joke is still ongoing…
Oh, hell yeah. Next.
I read about Vegas Loop a few years ago when it was, let’s call it “completed”, but… it’s somehow even worse than I remember. And the fact that Tennessee is building a new one is just mind-melting.
Less of a boondoggle, more of a hornswoggle.
