Unless the Trump administration chooses to renew the compensation program former nuclear weapons employees who are hoping to receive assistance with their medical payments will no longer have the opportunity.
Unless the Trump administration chooses to renew the compensation program former nuclear weapons employees who are hoping to receive assistance with their medical payments will no longer have the opportunity.
The US would be a military and economic superpower with or without nukes. The only reason nukes matter is because other countries have them. If you think the world would be better off if Russia were in dominance, then you are shockingly uninformed.
Other people need nukes because the US has them and demonstrated that it is willing to use them on civilians. Other countries have nuclear arsenals because that’s the only way to stop yanks from going
and mounting a campaign that kills a million people or more in their region. Building nuclear weapons for the American military is objectively bad for the world. I didn’t say anything about Russia.
Confirmed. You are shockingly misinformed.
Lol okay, don’t dispute any of it that’s fine, guess they didn’t nuke civilians.
What’s the point? You are not misinformed because you don’t have access to the correct information, you are misinformed because you choose to be myopic because you think that makes you edgy or clever.
Yeah,the US nuked civilians. Name a large country that doesn’t have mass civilian casualties in it’s past. You’ll have to explain to me how flattening a city with a nuke instead of a thousand conventional bombs is morally different. If you really want to put the US in a bad light you should mention that the US did a hell of a lot more damage to Japanese cities with conventional bombs than nukes. That doesn’t work though, since pretty much every country has done something like that. You might also want to consider that the question of whether Japan actually had non-combatants is debatable. When the US took smaller Japanese islands, “civilians” fought to the last, committed suicide, or were killed by their parents if they were too young to fight.
Things look a lot different when you’re not cherry picking history. The idea that no other country would have developed nukes if not for the US is entirely absurd.
Is the argument supposed to be that everyone else is also bad so it doesn’t matter? Because I don’t agree with that reasoning, you can still find something objectionable even if other bad stuff also happens.
The guys who conducted experiments for Japan on living Chinese victims are also bad. The guys who armed and equipped the Taliban are also bad. The people that trained and armed the Contras, very bad. The guys who build weapons for Israel are also bad. It’s not a contradiction, there are plenty of other people who also have earned some sort of just retribution for the things they enabled.
I didn’t draw the US out of my hat, they came up because of the article in the link.
Of course. I’m not the one who was saying only everyone else’s nuclear weapons matter, though, you’re the one who needs to prove that somebody else has a worse record on this. You can’t do that though so you’re pivoting to… I guess yeah they also killed a lot of civilians with conventional weapons? I’m not disputing that though, I think most of the people the US kills are killed with conventional weapons. My original point was that the US goes around hurting humanity because it is an unquestionable nuclear power. The nukes are deterrence to keep everyone else in line.
Or that I guess, can’t kill civilians if all the children in Hiroshima were combatants? Yeah that’s a sane approach, definitely makes the US position seem really reasonable.
That kind of logic can justify unlimited violence. It’s not debatable that civilians lived in Japan.
Look, I know you’re defensive of your country or whatever. But this is really some wild justification you’re attempting here, at the point where the defense is “everyone committed mass murder but also it’s possible that every single person in two cities deserved to be vaporized by a nuclear bomb” we need to take a step back and reconsider how we got here.
Or I’m just edgy and misinformed or whatever. But I think you’re relying on a lot of canned lines and not thinking about what happened in a neutral light. If anyone else (say, Israel? Saudi Arabia?) claimed they could kill everyone in an area because there weren’t any civilians we would all recognize that for what it is.
I think we just disagree about what the US is justified in doing to the rest of the world. I’m trying to meet you partway here but my guess is this is the actual divide and there’s not really anything I could argue that would affect that belief you have.
Is that the argument that I made? Fuck no. However, YOUR point was that America was somehow especially bad, and that’s what I was refuting. Predictably, you have moved the goalposts to an entirely different field. Well, I’m not playing. That’s as far as I got or will get. You confirm with every post that you ain’t worth my time.
Oh no, I definitely believe the US is especially bad. I didn’t claim otherwise. Good luck though.
There’s the immediate imperial justification where you have to pretend everyone else is as bloodthirsty as us to protect your emotional attachment to the most demonstrably evil country in history. “If we didn’t do it, someone else would.”
You know you don’t have to do that, right? You don’t have to lie to yourself and us that everyone else would also gleefully incinerate cities full of civillians? You can face up to what we live inside and stop making excuses for the country currently helping carry out a genocide. If the USSR had invented nukes first, the world would absolutely be a better place and it’s not even close.
You gotta give up the addiction to having a foreign enemy to blame for the state of the world. America spent the last 75 years dictating terms to the rest of humanity uncontested, and all the crises we’re currently experiencing are the result of it getting exactly what it wanted.
Are you unaware of Russia’s imperial actions against its neighbors?
Are you unaware of what the words “empire, imperial, and imperialist” mean? Because it’s not “when military force”. Bonus question: why is the Russian Federation (a different country from the USSR, which I am talking about) in Ukraine? And finally, do you somehow think that even the most outlandish stories about the RF hold a candle to our own American evil, in either scale or depravity? Do you think an actual empire currently helping carry out a genocide and disappearing activists is a trustworthy source about it’s geopolitical rivals? Are you old enough to remember the Iraq war?