Teddy (left), and Sampson (right)
Yeah no, Pit bulls should be banned.
I like pitbulls and don’t know if this is bait (perhaps you didn’t realize the obvious response you’d get?) but this post should be removed either way.
Worst comment section I’ve ever seen in this community
Last year the son of a good friend, with only 5 years, was attacked and murdered by the grandfather dog that knew him his entire life, he was playing with his sister and the dog… can you guess the breed? Yep, thats right. Fuck those dogs
I am convinced this is a troll.
Retaliation to haters posted in a wholesome sub.
Pit Bulls being the most hated breed of dog out there (and for good reason).
OP calling everyone a “Dog Racist”
Each year 60% to 80% of dog attacks are caused by a single breed, fuck these animals. A Chihuahua may be more aggressive, but a person can easily fight those things off, a pit will lock onto anything and won’t release till they’re dead.
Retrievers retrieve, Pointers point & Pit Bulls are made to fight, its in their nature.
Edit: go ahead and down vote OP. Watch as that doesn’t change my opinion.
Just a head’s up but not a single police department in the nation DNA tests or even has a spot on their reports to label which specific breed of dog caused the attack, there is also roughly a dozen different breeds on the list of dogs commonly mistaken for pits.
Anybody telling you pits are responsible for any percentage of dog attacks is lying by giving a number not scientifically achieved.
In 2009, the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia released a five-year review of dog-bite injuries. The review states that 51 percent of attacks were made by pit bulls.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19644273/
In 2009, another study was published by the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology. The study ran for 15 years and it has concluded that pit bulls, German Shepherds, and Rottweilers are among the most common breeds that cause fatal dog attacks in Kentucky State.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19696575/
In 2011, the Annals of Surgery published a study, which concluded that Pitbull attacks lead to more expensive hospital bills, higher risk of death, and higher morbidity rates compared to other breeds of dogs.
Your data was true 13-15 years ago, doesn’t mean it is true today.
Doesn’t mean it’s wrong either; try to provide something to say otherwise.
Also how old does data need to be before it’s dismissed as ‘too old’?
That’s up to you.
What other subjects do you accept almost 20 year old data on? Do you go back 50 years? What is the cut off for you in all subjects, or is pit bulls the only subject you don’t have a standard for?
did pitbull behavior change in 20 years. they suddenly became goody good dogs?
i’d say it’s relevant until today and well into the future.
You think the dogs have somehow evolved to be less aggressive over a bit more than a decade?
It is quite strange to me that the only time I receive responses to 10 month old comments, whether on here or reddit, it’s only regarding pitt bulls.
Must be a slow day on r/pitbullhate’s private discord.
Found the bot with the copypasta.
there is also roughly a dozen different breeds on the list of dogs commonly mistaken for pits.
Do you have any evidence to support this statement? It would need to be pretty substantial to offset the large proportion of Pit Bull breeds.
I dont say this to be dismissive, I would actually be pretty interested in reading what you have.
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A year late and a dollar short… Literally.
Go away.
You are not the only person on the Internet. Just because you are no longer interested doesn’t mean this isn’t a valuable contribution. Go do something nice for someone, you owe us for being a dick.
I owe you… Fucking lol.
Go chat with the other loser trolling year old posts, you can have a great conversation with each other.
Go away.
Here is a list of 10.
https://pethelpful.com/dogs/10-Breeds-Most-Commonly-Mistaken-For-Pit-Bulls
Uhm….what about 99% of videos ever posted about someone being attacked by a dog. And nobody is surprised when it’s a pitbull.
To be clear, people who advocate for the extermimation of all bully breeds are not claiming that pitbulls account for 99% of all attacks.
So right out of the gate you have decided to make the point you are “debating” more extreme than the most extreme right wing nutcases already part of the conversation.
Better luck rage baiting somebody else. Maybe start out reasonable and then ramp up the insanity slowly instead of coming out of the gate so hot next time.
To be clear, I said “99% of videos ever posted about someone being attacked by a dog. And nobody is surprised when it’s a pitbull.” YouTube “attacked by dog” - it’s almost always a pitbull. You misconstrued what I said, and twisted it into some crazy “right-wing” topic. You’re simply wrong.
I’d love a study on what kind of masters the bloodthirsty dogs have. I’m willing to bet those dogs had masters that encouraged the behavior or got them because the breed is macho and never intended to be responsible about it.
Plenty of breeds of dogs are bought by bad owners with the intention of being used as attack dogs. But there is no way you can write off such an overwhelming percentage of pit bull attacks to this reasoning.
Every time a pit bull attacks anything you will always see this argument brought up to defend the breed. If this was truly the case other breeds of dogs would be high up on the list too (Rottweilers and German Shepards come to mind). But they aren’t even close to the percentage of Pit attacks.
Some attacks can be attributed to this fact, but because pit bulls alone make a majority of attacks across all breeds indicates that this cannot be the case.
Additionally out of all breeds of dog, I couldn’t think of a worse breed biting me. All dogs attack, but many bite and release, pits don’t.
This graphic lumps together at least 8 breeds under the umbrella of “pitbull”, which is rather strange. Sure, if you group many breeds into the same category before comparing it to a singular breed it’s going to look bad.
Also, you need to show per-capita to prove anything here. Sure, the absolute number may be high, but how does that compare to the absolute number of pitbulls? How does that compare to the per-capita of other breeds?
A breed can contain multiple dogs, here is a Wikipedia definition -
Pit bull is an umbrella term for several types of dog believed to have descended from bull and terriers. In the United States, the term is usually considered to include the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and sometimes the American Bulldog, along with any crossbred dog that shares certain physical characteristics with these breeds.
People just assume breed means a singular type of dog; it doesn’t. This applies to all breeds of dogs (Retrievers and Shepards for example). There are over 300 breeds and this one causes more deaths than the rest combined.
Again, this is why we need per capita instead of an absolute number. We are comparing an umbrella term to something more specific.
We need data that shows they are more likely than other dog breeds. This does not show that, as we don’t know the percentage chance one pit bull may attack vs any other breed based on this information.
This is the problem with statistics. If we select the right method, group things the right way, from the right time, and use specific methods we can prove anything we want. That’s why an understanding of how the field works is so important.
Sorry for the late reply btw, and thank you for continuing this conversation in good faith
I did not call everyone a dog rasict, I called the person say it was good that pitbull were being put down in the UK a dog rasict. But by your logic, we should have killed all Germans in WW2 because Germany was the home on the Nazi party and killed millions of people, but that’s wrong because not every Germany killed a person. And to say that we should kill something because it’s “in there nature” is harmful to all life because it sets an unrealistic expectation of what it is like. I’m not gonna deny that pitbulls attack people, but a dog rarely attacks people for nothing, and often the reason is out of fear or abuse.
Dogs aren’t people. We kill it eliminate troublesome breeds/species all the time. Ex: Japanese hornet
Japanese hornet was an invasive species to the Americans and thus was removed, but it’s not being exterminated in mass in Japan and other areas the hornets call home. And for you to say that because an animal isn’t human is basically saying it has no soul and doesn’t feel emotions, or at least that how you come across.
- No proof souls exist
- Are you a strict vegan? Otherwise you recognize animals are below humans.
- Animals obviously feel emotions.
Never met a mean pit in my life you’re just off your meds again; if you treat a dog like shit it’ll act like shit if you treat it well it will act well most of the time. And your statement about pitbulls being fighting dogs is bs they were bred to quite literally “pit bulls” my guy.
So many studies posted here and you decide to throw up anecdotal evidence like it means anything.
Why are so many randoms digging up this year old post? Go share your opinions on live threads instead.
Um make me do it dr.cuck
You’re the one who dug up this old thread to bitch. Why are Pitbull owners so retarded.
Blocking and moving on, enjoy replying to no one.
Dumb dumb
fuck these animals
Eh the animals did nothing wrong. They didn’t ask to be born as the artificially selected abominations we’ve made them into. Fuck people who continue to breed these animals and don’t spay/neuter their pits.
Cute, but should be put down as all others of this race
Can we put down the bad humans too then? Dogs aren’t inherently bad or good, it’s how they are treated and the resources they have access to, strangely much like us humans?! Weird!
Except this breed was created by us specifically for its violence. It’s in their genes. As far as I know there was no artificial breeding for pure violent humans. We created this abomination, we should put and end to it
We created all dog breeds. Violence is not something found in DNA, but keep trying that angle. You are just scared of them, and fair enough, but let’s not pretend the dogs only purpose in life is to bite people. Most dog breeds do not serve their purpose any longer and we buy them because we like them. Many dogs are violent and untrained. If pit bulls did not exist, you would ha e another breed in its place you are complaining about because people are terrible and irresponsible. Don’t blame the dog, blame the owner. My friend hates cocker spaniels because one bit her face when she was an infant and the memory has never left her. Should we ban that breed too?
Tell me when a cocker reach this kind of mortality then I will tell you to ban them too
Don’t create excuses. Not all dogs are the same, this dog is a murder machine and should be put down. It’s not their fault, but this doesn’t change the fact that they were bred to maximum damage
My thoughts are just based in numbers, yours, not so much
I am saying that if pit bulls did not exist, another breed would fill that pie chart because PEOPLE are terrible and irresponsible. Anything in the wrong hands can be a problem. It’s why most countries try to ban assault rifles from private use because they don’t solve any problems and are very dangerous in the wrong hands, but ultimately it is the hands that cause the issue, not the “thing”.
Your are just ignoring the fact that pitbulls are just more efficient in killing than any other race. Even if they got replaced, it would result in less deaths because not a single breed compares to them in terms of killing.
So yes, pitbulls are assault rifles, German Shepards are 38 revolvers and your friends Cocker are butter knifes. Changing one to another is safer to everyone
Sure, still doesn’t solve the problem though, does it?
Those aren’t actually OPs dogs. This is a bait.
Your right. One of them is my friends. I never claimed both were mine.
Wow, lots of people with strong feelings whose version of “I did my research!” is remembering what stories the newspapers wrote because they knew it would spark outrage and attract eyeballs, and hearsay on friend-of-a-friend stories.
So called “bully breeds” are the best dogs I’ve ever met. I fucking love cuddling with those meatheads. Cane Corsos, Dobermans, and Rottweilers are amazing, loyal, and loving, too.
I’ve been bitten and needed stitches from both a Chihuahua and a Poodle. My daughter was bit by a absolute shit of a Bichon, and my ex was bit by a Husky when she was a kid. Fuck those dogs we should outlaw and euthanize them all, right breed-banners? Or maybe it does indeed have to do a LOT with nurture, and very little with nature? (or in the case of my ex (according to her Mom) because she wouldn’t stop harassing the dog).
However, I’ve met some nice poodles and chihuahuas and huskies too (not bichons though, little assholes), but I’m not so fucking dumb and shallow as to say we need to outlaw them all, just that owners should absolutely be responsible and liable for their pets’ behaviour.
PS - OP your dogs are cute as hell. Look at those smiles!
Thank you, and yes, your absolutely right. Any dog is capable of violence, but I think the reason pitbulls have this reputation is because many people want them as an attack/defense dog and don’t actually know how to care for them in a way that keeps them calm.
This is the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” argument.
Sufficiently powerful projectile weapons require a license, training, etc. Dogs should be no different.
They look so happy and fuzzy and cuddly
I’ll acknowledge that this particular breed may be responsible for the most aggressive dog attacks, but I’d also assume there’s a correlation between aggression in dogs and the environment they’re brought up in.
It’s the nature vs nurture debate but for K9s. Both are probably legitimate factors. But I’d argue, give a pit bull a loving home and good training - something all dogs deserve - and they’ll never hurt a soul.
Problem is, idiots with no respect for animals tend to seek out “tough” dog breeds and torture them until they’re ready too attack anyone and everyone. Fuck people. People=Shit.
Very cute dogs
