• VitoRobles@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    7 days ago

    Social credit system in China sure pissed off a lot of Americans.

    But watch us get it under a different name.

  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    7 days ago

    Bout the most cringe worthy thing i have ever heard…

    A bunch of card carrying Nazis claiming " Morale suparity "

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      Lost family over this shit. Like how can I look you in the eyes knowing you voted for literal Nazis? How can you put on your cross necklace and pretend you’re a good Christian when you chose hate and malice?

  • ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    7 days ago

    Smells like what SD in Sweden has been harping on with their ‘dålig vandel’. They’d love to have the kinds of power Teh Dånald has.

    • markovs_gun@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      Nah he’ll just be deporting the right white people. Fascism starts with tue circle really big. Right now the circle includes new age natural health people, Mormons, and Hispanic men. These will be systematically purged. There always has to be an enemy, and the enemy must always be at the boundary of the in group, so as the in group gets smaller new elements of the in group must be designated as enemies who must be purged out of the in group. We’ve never seen what happens when they run out of groups but I imagine it will just devolve into “Oh you think you’re a REAL American because you’re 6’2”, blond haired, blue eyed, southern baptist, straight, and are descended from original colonists? Well fuck you you degenerate scum for having a cranial ridge that is too large!"

  • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    184
    ·
    8 days ago

    Trump has never had a “deportation” agenda.

    What he’s had, from the start, is a “send anyone who opposes me to a concentration camp” agenda.

    The “deportation” of immigrants was just a cenvenient base from which to start establishing precedents.

      • WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        7 days ago

        Oh yeah - absolutely.

        That’s why even as housing costs get further out of reach for more people, the politicians, at the behest of their wealthy cronies and patrons, are criminalizing homelessness. The goal is to essentially recreate 18th century workhouses.

        And you’ll count yourself lucky if you get sent to a workhouse instead of a foreign torture prison.

  • Nougat@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    50
    ·
    8 days ago

    "[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi. “Denaturalization finally does belong to federal district courts – but they are obviously keen on finding every way they can to denaturalize people they think did not deserve to be naturalized.”

    But what the administration can do is drag anyone and everyone they want into the courts, where they’ll either have to pay for their own attorney or go it alone, jump through hoops, miss work, incur travel expenses, and of course all the fucking stress that goes along with “this is the beginning of my being disappeared to a foreign gulag.”

    They don’t care whether any specific individual is denaturalized. Some percentage will be, for good or bad “reasons.” Some will just give up and leave the country. Some will go on the run. Many will succeed in court, retaining their citizenship, as well as a whole lot of paranoia for the rest of their lives.

    All of them will suffer from the process. The suffering is the point.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      ·
      8 days ago

      And those who win in court… have no guarantee that the federal administration won’t round them up again in the future and put them through the entire process again.

    • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 days ago

      "[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.

      “Wanna bet?”

      – Trump.

  • floo@retrolemmy.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    If there’s anything that Trump especially excels at, one talent, one skill, he is the absolute master of, it is his fucking hypocrisy. Like any bully, like any fascist, they will use your own rules to beat you down as they, by definition, are in violation of them. When they violate the rules, they are “strong“. When you violate the rules you are “weak“.

    The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

    It works because they have no shame. And they have no shame because they are psychopaths.

    How fascism is specifically designed to break democracy using its own rules: The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    cake
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    7 days ago

    If moral character was a real issue, Trump would have lost his citizenship long ago. Together with most politicians in Washington DC.

  • madlian@lemmy.cafe
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    8 days ago

    “[The administration] can’t, on their own, denaturalize people, they still have to go to a federal district court,” said Chisthi.“

    Because they give a shit about federal courts

    • JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      7 days ago

      Except SCOTUS has just ruled that defendants have to make a legal claim for each and every act enabled by an unconstitutional law. So yeah Trump can do literally anything he likes.

  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    8 days ago

    “Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases.”

    How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?

    Example in Tennessee: "The legislation, criminalizing the act of being in Tennessee without legal immigration status, would come with both jail time and an eviction notice from the state. Judges would be required to issue 72-hour warnings to leave Tennessee to anyone charged or convicted of the crime.

    The first offense would be a misdemeanor, but would rise to a felony if someone is charged a second or subsequent time."

    That means Tennessees courts should immediately shoot that down as unconstitutional because it is a civil matter according to the federal government.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 days ago

      How can immigrantion matters be considered a civil matter if you criminalized someone’s immigration status?

      Because you have a judge who rubber stamps your twisted legal reasoning. And you’ve got a liberal opposition that only knows how to shrug at fascism and deflect blame onto college leftists for not voting harder.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        7 days ago

        There isn’t much opposition in Tennessee, but Memphis and Nashville still exist. So you have Tennessee judges that have blocked their bills to ban drag shows, hemp products, ID’s for porn, and laws against transporting women in need of health services. They don’t always win long term but they don’t just let everything go through without a peep. I’m sure there are others I don’t remember, but it is always nice to see when they do block something.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      I guess the logic is that this is a civil matter, then the consequences of it are criminal. Still, seems silly.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        7 days ago

        How could consequences for a civil matter be criminal. Just sounds wonky to me. It would be like saying marriage is a civil matter, but if you get divorced or cheat on them them it’s criminal.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          Because being here without citizenship could be criminal, so after the civil trial you have to do whatever needs to be done to stay or leave. It’s not instantly a criminal act, but the consequences could lead to criminal actions if you don’t make the changes required.

  • Maeve@kbin.earth
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    8 days ago

    The thrice divorced, adulterous, non-bill-paying would surely fall into this category.

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      8 days ago

      Not according to the new set of conservative morals. They think Taco is more Jesus than Jesus (who was a commie liberal anyway) and the very pinnacle of moral character.