• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit. Canadian conservatives are as rife with MAGA anti-environmentalism, xenophobia, and rabid imperialism as their peers in Michigan, New Hampshire, and Idaho.

      They just don’t like being on the receiving end of Trumpism.

      Edit: We’ll see who is getting downvoted once the Alberta Separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

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        Half of Canada was fully on the Trump bus the day before the tariffs hit.

        I’d say that’s a high estimate. Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

        This isn’t new, unfortunately. Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s. Then they actually got to put their ideas in practice. Humans can be pretty shit like that.

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          Maybe 20%, with another 60% that just wasn’t worried about it very much.

          Enough that the Liberals were on their way to a historic wipe out absent Trump pissing all over the Canadian export industry. Pierre Poilievre was fully on the American bandwagon, straight up echoing Republican talking points word-for-word in his campaign appearances, prior to January. The 60% that “wasn’t worried” was happy enough to support a Vichy Canadian government practically days before the vote.

          Fascism was trendy and influential in polite circles all through the 1920’s and early 30’s.

          Comically easy to forget how half the English royal family was Nazi-pilled right up until the bombs started landing. Or that American big business profited handsomely from the reconstruction of the German War Machine.

          Folks really don’t like to think further back than 1941 when it comes to global political history. And even then… Yalta might as well have had Stalin airbrushed out.

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        once the Alberta separatists are running your biggest oil wells.

        I’m getting real “my truck is bigger than your truck” vibes. Contrary to some beliefs, running a country is actually more than making money. I know it can be hard for some people to see past a single policy though.

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          I’m getting real “my truck is bigger than your truck” vibes.

          Hardly a sentiment alien to the Great White North.

          Contrary to some beliefs, running a country is actually more than making money.

          Ah, but all the Tories need to run is a marketing campaign. They can worry about running the country later, kinda like how Johnson and Starmer were left to sort things out after Brexit.

          I know it can be hard for some people to see past a single policy though.

          I mean, American liberals said that about immigration 20 years ago. Kicked the can down the road even when they had supermajorities in Congress and a free hand to write whatever reforms they pleased.

          Now, here we are.

          Cost of living increases in Canada are driving people crazy. But the only response either party seems able to field is “More structured privatization, more subsidies, more deficit hawkery, more neoliberalism”.

          The Alberta Solution hinges on the theory that they can outrun capital consolidation if everyone becomes a roughneck earning six figure salaries at the well-head. Obviously bullshit. But you can at least point to current salaries and all those middle-income riggers and truckers with their big cars and nice homes and pretend it’s a serious solution.

          Carney’s up the same shit creek as Trudeau, though. He can’t do any real economic reforms that run afoul of the country’s biggest private stackholders. So he’s just left fiddling around the edges of policy, hoping Toronto housing prices magically deflate sometime in the next five years.

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    The funniest thing to me is that even my MOST right leaning relatives on Facebook etc have started posting anti Trump stuff. Trump unified Canada in our dislike of him.

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      I wish this meant they weren’t going to vote for a party that would happily offer Canada up for auction in exchange for the opportunity to kiss Trump’s feet

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    As an American, I agree that more places should see America as a threat instead of an ally. Since the unhinged masses managed to elect a narcissist as president who will do “insert whatever baffling or dangerous thing” for payment/tribute.

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    The U.S. has always been a threat to democracies all over the planet. Look up the number of countries they have supported right-wing dictators in and coups against democratically elected left-leaning leaders. tRump has just bought the totalitarianism home, and dropped the mask for all the world to see.

    People need to remember history and not get fooled if the mask ever goes back on.

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    Europeans are still most concerned by Vladimir Putin’s Russia, Pew Research Center survey shows.

    We understand America better. They’ll come around - especially if Russia starts having serious internal problems.

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    Well, Europeans are physically closer to Russia than to America. It isn’t unreasonable to prioritize the more immediate threat, and some people’s brains seem to only have room for one.