The only people that regularly say that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist are stirring shit, it isn’t a good faith argument. It never, ever, leads to a good conversation where everyone stays chill and on topic.
There’s the implication that jews have no right to a homeland of some kind, which is probably why they attributed it to racism (antisemitism), but it isn’t necessarily about that. It could be, I don’t know your stance in that regard, but it’s definitely anti Israeli, which is a fairly pernicious loophole, imo.
If you’re saying that no nation has a right to exist, fine, cool, maybe saying that would have been a better choice. But you can’t pretend you don’t know that that rhetoric is also slung around by antisemites.
Now, I gotta add my usual warning here. This community isn’t the place to debate the issue itself. I’m not going to go any further than what’s needed to explain my opinion regarding PTB or not. There’s a solid community for continuing to debate topics that get locked, and others for political debates in general, if that’s your bag.
Edit: dog whistles and how they spread is not a new idea. I didn’t come up with it. And, busy today This was released.
Anyone thinking that dog whistles shouldn’t be removed by mods is blind. It’s a major problem on the internet. It doesn’t matter who or what the dog whistle targets, it’s the fact that it is a tool of bigotry that spreads like a disease, even through places and people that aren’t bigots. That’s the problem with coded language. It’s viral and pernicious.
The fact that anyone even saw the need to try and study it should be a clear indicator that when a mod, or a user scrolling by, sees a dog whistle in the wild like this, it can’t just be shrugged off as unimportant.
No settler colony has a right to exist. If you believe people have the right to kill Palestinians and steal their land because “they’re Jewish”, then you are the racist.
This is akin to removing comments saying Russia has no right to colonize Ukraine.
I am not putting words in your mouth your argument is complete nonsense
Since you still don’t get it let’s do a 1 for 1 comparison and swap for Israel with another religious ethogroup which murders civilians because it believes it has a right to a historical land.
By that argument no countries have a right to exist.
Correct. Borders are lines drawn in the sand because of modern warlords called politicians.
By singling out Israel people will assume you’re pushing the same antisemitic line.
“No one has the right to murder for land gain.”
“That’s wildly antisemitic!”
“I’m talking about Russia attacking Ukraine.”
Murder and war is bad. It’s not unique to Israel that murder is bad, because bloodshed is bad when any nation does it in the name of nationalism, and genocide.
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Sure.
The only people that regularly say that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist are stirring shit, it isn’t a good faith argument. It never, ever, leads to a good conversation where everyone stays chill and on topic.
There’s the implication that jews have no right to a homeland of some kind, which is probably why they attributed it to racism (antisemitism), but it isn’t necessarily about that. It could be, I don’t know your stance in that regard, but it’s definitely anti Israeli, which is a fairly pernicious loophole, imo.
If you’re saying that no nation has a right to exist, fine, cool, maybe saying that would have been a better choice. But you can’t pretend you don’t know that that rhetoric is also slung around by antisemites.
Now, I gotta add my usual warning here. This community isn’t the place to debate the issue itself. I’m not going to go any further than what’s needed to explain my opinion regarding PTB or not. There’s a solid community for continuing to debate topics that get locked, and others for political debates in general, if that’s your bag.
Edit: dog whistles and how they spread is not a new idea. I didn’t come up with it. And, busy today This was released.
Anyone thinking that dog whistles shouldn’t be removed by mods is blind. It’s a major problem on the internet. It doesn’t matter who or what the dog whistle targets, it’s the fact that it is a tool of bigotry that spreads like a disease, even through places and people that aren’t bigots. That’s the problem with coded language. It’s viral and pernicious.
The fact that anyone even saw the need to try and study it should be a clear indicator that when a mod, or a user scrolling by, sees a dog whistle in the wild like this, it can’t just be shrugged off as unimportant.
Jews don’t have the right to kill other people and steal their land. Nobody has a Reicht to do that. This is not a “controversial” viewpoint.
By that argument no countries have a right to exist.
By singling out Israel people will assume you’re pushing the same antisemitic line.
Make better arguments and maybe that won’t be so easily swatted down.
Now you’re getting it.
No settler colony has a right to exist. If you believe people have the right to kill Palestinians and steal their land because “they’re Jewish”, then you are the racist.
This is akin to removing comments saying Russia has no right to colonize Ukraine.
Stop putting words in my mouth.
If you say “X has no right to exist” you’re going to get shut down because it’s a lazy inflammatory argument.
I am not putting words in your mouth your argument is complete nonsense
Since you still don’t get it let’s do a 1 for 1 comparison and swap for Israel with another religious ethogroup which murders civilians because it believes it has a right to a historical land.
Does ISIS-K have a right to exist in Syria?
This is a question that zios never want to talk about.
Correct. Borders are lines drawn in the sand because of modern warlords called politicians.
“No one has the right to murder for land gain.”
“That’s wildly antisemitic!”
“I’m talking about Russia attacking Ukraine.”
Murder and war is bad. It’s not unique to Israel that murder is bad, because bloodshed is bad when any nation does it in the name of nationalism, and genocide.
Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.