And this absence means that all that progressive men ear is what’s targeting at the conservative assholes. And more often than not it makes no distinction. In fact, very often it even warns those men that pretend to be allies but aren’t. This antagonistic discourse is wearing and tearing on the soul.
Yeah well put
I mean I just got told on Bluesky that it’s ok to say “men… Negative think” And it’s everyone else’s responsibility to know you really just mean specific men and I’m telling on myself as one of those men for taking any issue with the practice.
Hell the post I was originally replying to had screenshots of people being shitty to men and the response to them was that random posts aren’t proof when like yes that’s how proof works, but the goalpost gets moved to “well it’s not a real problem” and downplayed instead of anyone just defusing the situation by saying “yeah that sucks, people shouldn’t be shitty to men just like they shouldn’t be shitty to women”.
I’m not keeping a collection of posts nor do I think it’s this sweeping universal thing, I run into posts being shitty and ignore them and move on until I make a vent post about it but I’m not tracking them as they happen, which apparently you need to because that’s the other counter, that anecdotes aren’t proof, which agreed they aren’t, but it’s telling IMO that the reaction to guys saying they feel this way is usually a lot more charged and accusatory than a guy saying he doesn’t like the current state of things.
The first rule in the sidebar is “assume good faith” but multiple comments are making (afaict) groundless accusations of bating. What gives?
Because the actual baiting is calling anything that doesn’t go with the desired consensus of the accuser as bait.
That if a man says “hey I’m a man I don’t want to be picked on I want to be accepted for who I am” the response isn’t “ah ok cool sounds good we want that for everyone”, it’s a dismissal and assumption that being a man means you already are accepted or don’t need community outside of what men are painted to be.
Appreciate it
Oops I meant “men… Negative thing” as in a statement starting with men followed by a negative statement (e.g. men are such pigs!)
And I am venting frustrations but also saying it’s a vent post because of the powerlessness to enact a solution outside of my immediate reach, which is the real solution is do what is can to be better to people I interact with and it will spread but it’s one thing irl and one thing with social media where it’s a beast trying to defeat better communication with “engagement”, it’s fighting an uphill battle. Can’t dismantle the master’s house with the master’s tools as they say.