Why do you keep talking about the .ml communities? It’s irrelevant. We’re not on an .ml community.

To repeat one last time: You’re not going to fix the problem you care about in .ml communities by creating a bias problem on Sopuli.

Since you didn’t read very closely, or perhaps at all, I will put it in simpler terms: two wrongs don’t make a right.

You’re not going to fix the bias problem in .ml communities by creating a bias problem in the China community.

Of course I addressed that:

As you say explicitly here, you think that the cure to partiality in one community is partiality in another community.

That is the way information works in authoritarian societies - places like China and Russia. Truth does not exist so it’s pointless looking for it. There’s just propaganda on one side and propaganda on the other.

You’re helping to make the China community into the mirror image of what you so hate. The opposite of “no different viewpoints” is not “no different viewpoints on the other side”. It’s different viewpoints.

I’ve never denied that you post from generally reliable sources. The problem is the partiality. As you say explicitly here, you think that the cure to partiality in one community is partiality in another community.

That is the way information works in authoritarian societies - places like China and Russia. Truth does not exist so it’s pointless looking for it. There’s just propaganda on one side and propaganda on the other.

It won’t work in free societies where people are accustomed to hearing different viewpoints. Sophisticated information consumers can easily detect efforts at manipulation. They will switch off and go elsewhere. IMO this one reason the China community is so empty. If you want to influence people, as you seem to do, the only way to do it is by trust. By convincing them that you’re genuinely interested in finding the truth. That means posting some positive or neutral stories about China - because, after all, you don’t really believe that nothing positive or neutral ever happens in China, do you?

Anyway, I’ve said enough for today. Others will judge for themselves. Once again, I agree with you about China’s politics. But what you’re trying to do by flooding that community with constant repetition of the same negative stories - it’s not working, for the reasons just outlined. You’re damaging this whole project and wasting your own time.

Mea culpa. That post was cross-posted to the China community and I thought I was replying there.

In the Privacy community it is entirely appropriate to criticize China relentlessly. In the China community, it is not.

This is what you refuse to understand. I don’t know if you care or not, but I agree with you about China’s government. You will see that from my posts here and elsewhere.

But I also want these discussion forums to succeed. To attract new members, communities must stay on-topic and cover a variety of viewpoints about their subject.

The topic of that community is “China”. It is not the “Communist Party of China” or “privacy”.

By ignoring this, you’re stopping that community from succeeding. And it’s even worse than that: by helping to create an off-topic community frequented by a handful of members who already agree with you, you’re ensuring that you reach nobody new, that you persuade nobody with your ideas (which, again, I agree with). Your wasting everyone else’s time and your own too. It’s sad and unnecessary.

C’est pas faux. Et ces docus là, je les regarde. Hier soir, celui d’Arte sur la prison d’El Salvador. A la fois bouleversant et un modèle de journalisme.

Mais je parlais surtout du “contenu de merde” qui se trouve sur les plateformes de streaming qui ont remplacé la télé. En termes de merde, Prime n’a rien à envier à TF1.

We’re going round in circles. I already answered that: zero-knowledge-proof anonymity is, all else aside, better than the alternative.

My general point is (again…) that Europe’s (overall) situation is still not “essentially the same as” China’s.

Sure, that’s all obviously true. But Europe’s situation is still not “essentially the same as” China’s.

Add the planned access to messenger service E2E encryption

This scenario I’m still sceptical about. It’s so dumb, so technically illiterate, so futile at its declared purpose that I can’t help thinking that a coalition of opponents including bit tech itself will mean it goes nowhere.

Pareil, 21 ou 22. Mais la réalité c’est que tous deux on continue de regarder du contenu audiovisuel sur d’autres supports.

It’s not essentially the same, for the exact reason you describe: it’s a way to provide proof of a specific piece of data without revealing all the rest. If we accept that governments (i.e. societies) have a right to enforce their laws, then this is the best possible way to do it.

More generally, as others point out and you must already know, there is nothing “essentially the same” about internet privacy in China vs Europe.

I’m trying to see positively what the Chinese government is trying to do instead of always viewing them negatively.

In this community you’re gonna be waiting a while!

But a couple of us are trying to address that, so keep coming back.

Can someone do a quick explainer of what this move to ARM means for free computing? The prospects for hassle-free installation of alternative OSs? Is it good news or bad?