I misread, sue me. Yeah it was inflation which is again an across the board issue. Again not a lefty issue. And yeah, lefty issues made up 60%, but nowhere in that paper did it state how much overlap between issues. Again, we don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I bet you all the money in my pocket versus all the money in your pockets that at least half of the people who reported that Gaza swayed their decision ALSO reported that climate change, and abortion swayed their vote. And nice try adding in immigration and democracy as ‘lefty issues’ as if they’re not ALSO across the board issues.

And not trusting a party on an issue is only really relevent if there’s only one or two issues that people don’t trust the party on. When people do not trust the party on 90% of the issues, they don’t trust the fucking party. Which is exactly why 62% of democrats want new leadership in the party and that’s just DEMOCRATS. Not even counting left leaning independents.

“Next, think back to your decision not to vote in 2024. You will see issues that some say may have impacted their decision whether or not to vote. For each of those, please say how you feel about that issue.” And in every category, the data YOU provided shows that most people who didn’t vote WEREN’T GOING TO VOTE ANYWAY.

“This issue was important to me, and candidates positions on this issue swayed me not to vote.” Gaza - 20% with 80% not being swayed or not caring about the issue that much.

Abortion Access - 22% with 78% not swayed/caring

Jobs - 14% with 86% not swayed/caring

Inflation - 25% with 75% not swayed/caring

Democracy and voting access - 15% with 85% not swayed/caring

Immigration - 21% with 79% not swayed/caring.

Climate change - 22% with 78% not swayed/caring

the issue which swayed most people NOT to vote wasn’t a lefty issue like gaza, climate change, or abortion access, it was IMMIGRATION, which is an issue literally everyone on the political spectrum cares about in some way shape or form. Furthermore, YOUR study that YOU linked is pretty clear that most people didn’t stop voting because they didn’t like the issues, it was because they don’t trust EITHER party to run the government.

“Neither party is trustworthy on this issue”

Economy - 38% compared to 31% for Dems and 18% for Repubs

Housing - 45% compared to 37% D and 8%R

Russia/Ukraine - 36% compared to 31D and 18R

Gaza - 49% compared to 18D and 16 R

Immigration 38% compared to 24D and 28R

Income inequality - 43% compared to 40D and 6R

Foreign threats - 38% compared to 25D and 21 R

In fact, the only times ANYONE is seen as more trustworthy than not on ANY issue is Climate Change and Healthcare.

Lmao. You might live in the USA but your posting history tells me exactly what I need to know about how much you actually talk to IRL people. Dude you moderate like 20 communities and spend your days posting on HERE. You don’t actually speak to irl people. And yes, as someone living in a ruby red state, volunteering with mutual aid groups and political action groups in a ruby red state, yes I HAVE actually spoken to conservatives lately, along with liberals, leftists, and people who have showered since this election. Get off the computer every minute of every day, actually go out and touch grass and DO something material in your life, because you look like a rage-bait bot with control issues who hasn’t spoken to another living human person before. Assuming, ofcourse, that you’re not just a shill account meant to spread propaganda.

Do me a favor pal: show me proof that it was leftists who didn’t vote this time. In fact, show me proof that the people who didn’t vote were against harm reduction. Show me any proof any evidence from ANYWHERE that the people who refused to vote… were refusing to vote? Show me any evidence that says that says anything with any certainty about ANYONE who did not vote?

Oh, you can’t? Well that makes sense, because we don’t actually KNOW who left the electorial arean. We don’t know WHY they left the electorial arena, and we don’t know WHAT they were thinking. So, I’d love to know why everyone seems so certain that it was the left who stopped voting entirely as opposed to the non-MAGA right or even the liberal center. And the reseaon everyone is CERTAIN it’s the left if because that’s been the reused talking point that’s been dragged out every time there’s been a lull in the insanity since Jan 20th. Almost like somebody doesn’t want the subject to die. Almost like someone profits off of the left and the center fighting each other instead of fighting the 1%.

People who stopped voting entirely may be facism enablers, I’m not disagreeing. But, there’s no actual, solid evidence to blame that shit on any one group in particular. And even despite that, it’s absolutely INSANE that we’re hyper focused on the imagined people we THINK didn’t vote for the reasons we think they didn’t vote, and yet IGNORE the people we KNOW voted for this and IGNORE the reasons they’re telling us they voted for this.

Like tf? Thinking billionaires have been and are continuing to demonize any actual progressive candidate and are propagandizing broad swaths of the electoral is an inane conspircay theory when it’s something we have seen evidence of time and time and time again, and in the same breath saying that people who voted for trump are lying about why they voted for trump based on ‘just trust me bro’ is absolutely ludicrous.

I’m gonna try to reply to this in good faith as you seem to be wanting to engage in a good faith discussion, so let me tell you my experience.

I’m a trans girl.

Before I even have memories I was always (according to my mother) asking for skirts and dresses and playing with dolls and makeup. These moments were always taken as a joke or as me ‘being in a phase’ and were brushed off and ignored. My earliest memories have me confused why my sister gets to wear pretty dresses to church but I have to wear a boring suit. I remember ‘borrowing’ my sister’s nail polish, makeup, and dresses as early as age NINE. Did I have the understanding of what I was feeling? No. This was in the 90s, trans people werent as widely known in the US, especially the South. But if you’d given me the option to transition at age 9, I would’ve taken it in a heartbeat.

How do I know?

I’d slip out of my window EVERY NIGHT after everyone had gone to bed to wish on the first star I laid eyes on to be a girl. Sure, it wasn’t the first star to appear, but it was the first one I saw! That counted, right? I remember watching the episode of Sabrina the Teenaged Witch where she made a potion to turn herself into a boy to figure out what her boyfriend did in the auto shop. What did I do immediately after the episode ended? Went into the kitchen and tried to make my own potion with ‘sugar and spice and everything nice’. Glitter is nice! Oh and soda! Soda’s very nice.

I went to bed daydreaming of going to hogwarts and finding a potion that could make me right. I dreamed and dreamed and dreamed for a way to change my gender that when I finally heard about trans people at age 17, my reaction wasn’t ‘hmmm, this is interesting. I wonder if this is what I’m feeling’, instead it was ‘Oh, THAT’s what this is? There are other people like me?!?!?!’

Scientific studies have shown that a child’s concept of gender is already developed by age 4. Studies have also shown that a child’s understanding of who they are ALSO develops pretty early on. And, yes, in cases of children going on hormones, it is all done in conjunction with the child’s experiences, the doctor’s EXPERTISE in the matter, and the parents’ consent. They aren’t just walking into a doctor’s office and boosting little timmy up with E. Before any medicine has been taken there is EXTENSIVE screening through therapy and physician visits over the course of YEARS.

This isn’t a question that nobody has ever asked. It’s studied. It’s tested over the course of DECADES. And lastly, it’s (frankly) none of your business unless it’s YOUR kid, at which point you have complete control over whether your child goes through with any of it (up until age 18 at least).

My brother in christ, could you strawman any harder?

NOBODY thinks bernie ‘actually won’. Pretty much everyone who saw the 2016 election knows that Hillary won the primary, due to smear campaigns against bernie backed by establishment democrats. You know, the EXACT same thing that’s going on with Zohran Mamdani RIGHT FUCKING NOW. He WON the primary, and not by some secret cabal type shit but by the will of the voters by running gasp populist policies that actually help out the working class. And the establishment DNC is doing everything they can to smear him even AFTER getting the will of the voters, in favor of Andrew Cuomo or Eric Adams.

“If liberals are so fucking smart then why do they lose so god damn always?”

Instead of blaming the leftists who may or may not have voted (which for what it’s worth, I have never met a leftist irl who abstained voting even in a ruby red state) why don’t you fucking blame the people who are actively driving the bus off the cliff?

Or how about you LEARN from the last decade?

Because this right here is why establishment dems AND republicans ain’t doing too hot. You look at Trump’s victories and never ask ‘why did all these people vote for this fucking asshole?’. Instead, you write everyone who voted Trump as a racist or a sexist or a NAZI and while they’re perfectly willing to associate with NAZIs, it’s important to fucking learn why the fuck they voted for that asshole. And yeah, some of them definitely voted for racism or sexism reasons, but you’re absolutely braindead if you think the fact that he ran on eliminating corruption (‘drain the swamp’) and ran on making things better for the working class (‘price of eggs’). Was he lying? Yup. Is he a corrupt fascist? 100%, but unlike literally everyone else in the 3 presidential campaigns he ran in (excluding bernie ofc) absolutely NOBODY was speaking to the working class or populist policies. It was ‘I’m with her’ or ‘Trump bad’ or ‘It’s my turn’.

So, feel free sitting on your high horse saying ‘oh, well if the voters weren’t so dumb we would be at brunch’ instead of focusing on the people whose entire job it was to inspire people to vote for them, and keep dividing the working class more and more. You’re only playing into their hands, and yes I am talking about the billionaires that you’re sucking off rn.

In a system that values profits over peoples’ lives, stealing is a morally good act.