The reason I’m so frustrated with the left is because I wish you were right. But fucking hell I’ve seen it too many times. I’ve had this exact discussion every other time. The left are fucking performative and have not conviction. These protests are just to go get their “protest passport” stamped and go home then bitch about things until the next one.

Meanwhile it’s an opportunity for the authorities to go fishing. Police training isn’t what it is to be. They have protests down to a science. Plus they will be able to fight for bigger budgets.

I’m not saying protests shouldn’t happen. I am saying North American protests needs to something more than just showing up to get heads kicked in and make performative acts. Like it honestly seems like they biggest advances in how to protest came from other countries like China or Egypt. I don’t know. I’m just fucking done with it all. I’m telling you in a couple weeks none of this will matter.

That’s a critical part of the argument

It’ll work though too. People will show up. The most active protestors will be targeted and arrested. The rest will eventually go home and in a month we’ll be on to the new thing.

That’s crazy I didn’t know that. But I think of funding. I think of funding grifters like heritage foundation, TPUSA, people’s careers like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Tim Pool whoever amplifies.

There’s not much on the left. Unless it’s a former Republican who is now anti Trump.

Elon isn’t a democrat

Where did I say kowtowing.

I think guys like him can be convinced to action with some very petty motivations. But we just need methods to motivate

That’s what a lot of you keep telling yourselves to self soothe all the failures

There’s always excuses. But the fact is the left lost the plot a long time ago.

Hey, here is another example. The left can’t ever set it self up for success. Chase all the money and power away. Then wonder why there’s been a steady decline.

https://lemmy.world/post/31156021

Well maybe that is the reason both political parties have moved further and further to the right

No I’m not. You people are like lemmings. One of you says a thing and then that’s like your go to retort. Need like a David Attenborough for the digital age that can see these copy paste retorts in the wild and categorize them all.

I’m well aware they’re not the left. But I’m a political climate where there’s Republicans and Democrats you don’t have many options.

Lol they’re not losing because of neoliberalism. They’re losing because the left is no longer effective as a group and Democrats are closer to Republicans but that’s only because they’re allowed to be by the people. Which goes back to the left as people are just ineffective at what they try to accomplish.

I don’t think he believes any of those things. He’s a capitalist. He doesn’t care because those are rules. Rules do not apply to the rich like him. They’re just pieces on a game board they move around. He wants attention. Take advantage. Convince him to aid Palestine and they’ll all be eating cyber trucks in a week.

The fucking world is burning and I partially blame the left for ineffective and incompetent strategies and ideals. In my life, the left has a decent hold on things. Every year things improved bit by bit. But then the Internet came and it became clearer and clearer things changed. Instead of adsorption adapting the left just lost and continued to lose and never once has been critical of why they have been losing. It’s always how others are just dumb or rich.

Yea they suck. And he is a zit. But also rich.

That’s on us and the Democrats. The Democrats probably will but who cares, they’re fucking garbage anyways. Are you about to suck him off or anyone else? Probably not.

But does he want in and can fund lots of shit. Fuck yea he can. Operation paperclip his ass. Bring him in. Have him donate to Harvard, fund some Mercs to get aid into Palestine. Hell he is a troll, have him buy all the properties around Trump’s properties and build them higher than his. Who fucking cares. Capital is good. Capital does things. We’ve already lost everything. Take the W when we can.

Money doesn’t win elections alone. But it’s like 90% of what it takes to win. A politician spends most of their year canvassing for funds. That is why Washington is majority call centers for these politicians. Look it up. It has the most call centers per capita because they all cold call donors for funding.

The left needs content. Content creators need funding. People don’t win elections. Money wins elections. If money didn’t win elections, the deliverables Democrats would have a higher success rate. The left is circling the drain. It’s not the 1900s anymore. A political group made up of poor angry young people isn’t going to be able to punch as hard against the authoritarian forces that exist today. You can’t just freak out and burn cities. You need subversion and better strategy. It all costs money. The left on all fronts has lost. There’s no coming back especially with the awareness some of them have. They do the same thing every year and act like it’ll work while also crying about how bad it’s become. But it’s never them it’s always the mean rich people. Well maybe being rich has something to do with their success and victories over the past could decades.

Don’t care end of the day. The way you all get wrapped up over shit that doesn’t matter is crazy. The guy is trying to be 4chan irl. You people call everybody Nazis. He’s just a troll. He doesn’t have enough moral conviction to be a Nazi. He’s just a drug addict

You’re not giving him anything. He’s paying. How does that make you the quisling. If you’re using WWII knowledge. That was is fillled with examples of strategy over some made up head up our ass moral superiority. Take advantage especially capital in a capitalist world. Especially a capitalist with massive signal boosting capabilities. Tired of fucking losing with you people.

You’re a Nazi regardless if you believe that. But also no doesn’t work like that. That’s a pretty dramatic take. He’s a drugged out idiot. His salute bullshit was trolling at the worst. Let him fund things. You don’t need to invite him into your house for a beer. The actual Nazis are in government right now in key positions hiring strategically. We’re so far up shits Creek. It’s just like any of you fucking people are funding anything on the left.

Yea if they pay up