What you think I said is not true. But that’s not what I said. I said Apple devices are more private.

Read again

apple fanboys are the people who don’t think this shit happens to them.

I say this as an Apple hater: this is a false narrative. Apple fanboys say that their devices are more private, not completely private, and they are (assuming a stock Android OS). That’s not really up for debate. The mistake you’re making is positing privacy as a binary concept. Privacy is a spectrum.

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It’s because it’s used in tandem with other data they collect to profile you. To profile all of us.

all they can see is the times at which your messaging app was asked to wake up. Not whether any message was actually received, or what it contained, or from who.

Here’s what Senator Ron Wyden had to say on the matter:

The data these two companies receive includes metadata, detailing which app received a notification and when, as well as the phone and associated Apple or Google account to which that notification was intended to be delivered. In certain instances, they also might also receive unencrypted content, which could range from backend directives for the app to the actual text displayed to a user in an app notification.

So they know:

• What app received the notification
• when it was received
• who it was sent to

They could, very easily, by implementing UnifiedPush. Let the users decide if they want/need to use it. But as of now the only way to do that is by installing a third-party app.

The only think authorities are getting then, is the fact your Signal app was told to wake up at time X

That’s called metadata.

It’s just a mechanism to wake up sleeping apps so that they can check up with their server.

So why do the authorities want it?

First, it’s very much not a “schizo” thing, and such people might find that offensive so you might consider a better word choice.

Second, if it’s possible in your area you can pick up a pre-paid SIM from Best Buy or something with cash. They could still possibly link that back to you with cameras in the store so put on a nice medical mask and some glasses and a hat. Shove a rock in your shoe so they can’t read your gait.

Yes, putting a SIM in your device that you are registered with will identify that phone as yours. But you can just take it out when you’re done. Just have to keep it because you may need that phone number again.

You can try getting a number from somewhere like Cloaked but they can usually detect if it’s a VoIP.

Unfortunately a phone number is something society expects you to have in order to participate.

Windows is literally malware

I actually like Mattermost as a free slack alternative. Matrix is too complicated for normies and the encryption seems unnecessary on a local server.

Not necessarily. I’m not some sort of tech genius but she’s using some choice language here:

push notifications for Signal NEVER contain sensitive unencrypted data & do not reveal the contents of any Signal messages

metadata is not “contained” in the notification.

When pushed on this she basically changed the subject to “there’s no alternative”:

Another Twitter user pointed out that rather than the exposure of the text, the bigger issue is that “the push gets sent at all, not what’s in it. It lets an attacker identify somebody by when they get messages, messages the attacker may even have sent.”

To this, Whittaker replied, “So this is an issue worth clarifying. It’s not possible [right now] to build a mass [communications] app [without] push notifications, [especially with] calling. This is a problem, we agree.”

https://www.medianama.com/2023/12/223-signal-push-notifications-content-meredith-whittaker/

I could be misinterpreting these statements but that’s how it reads to me. Seems like encrypting metadata would require Google’s involvement and I’m sure that’s the opposite of what they want.

Yes. 100%. Some app creators will encrypt the contents but I don’t think they can encrypt the metadata.

Even the most “private” of companies like Signal and Proton don’t provide any alternative either. Third-party fork Molly adds UnifiedPush support to Signal.

From Signal CEO:

PSA: We’ve received questions about push notifications. First: push notifications for Signal NEVER contain sensitive unencrypted data & do not reveal the contents of any Signal messages or calls–not to Apple, not to Google, not to anyone but you & the people you’re talking to.

In Signal, push notifications simply act as a ping that tells the app to wake up. They don’t reveal who sent the message or who is calling (not to Apple, Google, or anyone). Notifications are processed entirely on your device. This is different from many other apps.

What’s the background here? Currently, in order to enable push notifications on the dominant mobile operating systems (iOS and Android) those building and maintaining apps like Signal need to use services offered by Apple and Google.

Apple simply doesn’t let you do it another way. And Google, well you could (and we’ve tried), but the cost to battery life is devastating for performance, rendering this a false option if you want to build a usable, practical, dependable app for people all over the world.

So, while we do not love Big Tech choke points and the control that a handful of companies wield over the tech ecosystem, we do everything we can to ensure that in spite of this dynamic, if you use Signal your privacy is preserved.

(Note, if you are among the small number of people that run alt Android-based operating systems that don’t include Google libraries, we implement the battery-destroying push option, and hope you have ways to navigate.)

https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/111563865413484025

There’s literally always going to be someone out there who doesn’t have the same information that you do.

And there’s going to be people who have information I don’t. That doesn’t mean they should run the same article over and over.

We’ve known about this for a long time. Google too. Apple publishes it in their transparency reports now.

That’s no what I’m asking. If I open the site and create a workspace, then close the window, how do I get back into my workspace?

If there’s no account, how do I “log in” to my community or whatever

It’s peer-to-peer, there’s no server

The best way for self hosting is docker

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