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As a childless person… I don’t get it.
Is it like a rubber seal that keeps they lid on like in some other things meant to hold liquid or is it some other sippy cup related contraption
There’s a rubber seal inside the lid that stops them leaking. The milk etc can get behind it, where normal washing won’t get. It can get funky if you don’t clean it out.
Parenting mostly isn’t that hard. You just have to keep all the proverbial plates spinning. Unfortunately there are FAR more than you expect, and you never get a break. You will miss some, then beat yourself up for missing something so simple.
I see, thanks for the clarification!
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you don’t check your brain’s file system regularly?
You might want to read my username more carefully.
I think I will fsck myself
Can I $watch
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Just 3 beans come on man, spill them, least we can take is 5
They will never suspect
So why are mothers expected to just figure things out on their own? We humans have women living way past fertile age because they were important for children, and suddenly we decided we don’t need grandma’s help passing along generational knowledge and helping first time mothers. Grandma/Grandpa are supposed to be free and focus on helping the parents so they learn and don’t make mistakes because they don’t know anything.
And community too. It’s so isolated. Makes me sad, and afraid to have children.
Unless they’ve been using the same sippy cups for decades, I don’t think grandma would’ve helped with this.
While I don’t disagree, (personally, I’m not about it but people should be able to plug in to a local community for common advice of mundane things) parents also just…learned things themselves. And sometimes it wasn’t correct. I’ve spoken to my sister-in-law who told me about all the unsolicited advice she’s gotten about motherhood. And how much of it was basically superstition, not medical advice.
In the Netherlands, “kraamverzorgenden” come by the house of new parents every day for ~the first week to show you the ropes, and just in general to help with chores and/or entertaining brothers and/or sisters.
kraamverzorgenden
That sounds like something that would go to the house of new parents and steel their kid
What does “kraamverzorgenden” mean? In my country that’s always a woman and is called “grandma” but in a diminutive or loving style or a pet name for grandma. Basically “gammy” or something to that effect.
It roughly means “someone who takes care [of the new family] in a newborn situation”.
Same in Slovenia. I assume it’s the same in all of EU.
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Guess it depends on the Hebamme - there’s definitely the possibility to get consultations of this kind before and after birth.
People who come by everyday for a week to help out and give advice? For free? If you gave birth at a normal hospital?Edit: i answered to the wrong thread, my bad.
I’ll forgive you. This time.
OUR bad!
In my experience, it’s not so much everyone needs to figure it out for themselves. It is filtering through invalid opinions and non-applicable information.
It’s the same reason it is so hard being a doctor, “Oh, your baby is crying? Here’s a few thousand things it could be, and tomorrow, it will probably be a different reason.”
This is super tangential, but I knew someone who had a miscarriage which caused a mental health crisis. Or perhaps more accurately, the crisis was caused by severe isolation and implicit stigma around her grief. She told me that after the crisis, she was surrounded by people who had experienced miscarriages too. She was baffled because this sure would have been helpful before the mental breakdown.
People are expected to be so strong that ultimately it just weakens us at the community and the individual level
Let’s be real, the whole “only mom and dad are supposed to FAFO on their own” is an extremely stupid societal expectation. Humans were never meant to live as isolated animals, always in groups
I know right. I don’t see why countries promote this kinda individualism and expect people to have children.
It’s easier for them to control large scale populations if those populations don’t have a strong social structure
Some things you really do just have to learn by experience, but there is no reason to withhold knowledge that can help someone be better or do something easier.
YouTube has converted “sharing knowledge” to “monetization”, so no one helps unless they’re getting something back for it.
As much as I love my independence, I can’t help but look at society and think that things have gone very wrong at some point.
Yeah. Independence is nice and all, specially because of current advances in technology that makes it possible. But the same technology have made it possible to goto the extreme that we were not prepared for.
When you’re planning on having kids, or pregnant, your health care providers will recommend you take some parenting classes. There’s ways to learn, don’t let your parents not being there for you stop you. You will also likely get recommended to get a doula and midwife.
It’s not the same. For starters, none of it is free. Like every other aspect of capitalism, it disproportionately affects the poor. Also, I don’t know about you, but I would never be able to trust a stranger as much as my own family. And the family is also missing out. It’s so rewarding to raise a baby. I was involved in raising many of my nieces and nephews, and it was so great. Just interacting with kids is a beautiful thing, and a wonderful stress reliever. (I know not everyone likes babies, but many do.) I know that there’s some real threat of perverts, but the fact that babies are pretty much isolated from the society is not great for their growth.
Free where I live.
And why do you think the family still can’t be involved? Your parents likely don’t know everything, and there’s recent discoveries to know about too. Even with family support, you should still do all the above as well. Prepare yourself, don’t expect others to always be there.
Lotta people lose their families
To christianity, fascism, just being personally shitty
Edit: oooooh downvoting. Don’t want to be reminded how christianity shatters families?
I’m not advocating against medical/professional help, but you were replying to a comment talking about the erosion of community. Also, this kind of help is not free in the vast majority of the world, afaik. Apart from EU, Japan, China, and maybe a few other small countries, it costs quite a lot.
And I was providing examples where there is communities still available. Just because one door is shut, doesn’t mean they all close. There’s free community programs in lots of places too. Don’t miss all the good to just complain about a few negatives.
Kids are expensive, what a shocker. Did you expect raising kids to be free and easy? Because maybe that’s why more parents need parental classes, to actually properly know how to ready their kids for their own kids.
Not easy, but it should be relatively cheap. If the community is there, it should be cheap. There should be free healthcare, free schooling, and paid leave for parenting. It’s still gonna be hard, but not costly to raise a kid. Making it expensive is a product of capitalism.
And I was providing examples where there is communities still available.
Maybe I am missing something, but I don’t see that in your original reply.
Those are pretty cheap and are available in civilized countries. We have health care, schooling, paid leave for parenting. It’s still expensive to have kids, stuff just costs money. You can garden to lower the costs yourself, but that requires work, which people don’t want to do.
Parental classes are a community, ours even stayed in touch and still talk semi regularly. We used to get together with the dozen kids every 3 months.
What do you think parenting classes is? It’s a community to learn as a group with other parents the hardships of parenting in TODAYS age? A doula provides support, and a midwife provides medical assistance.
You can also go on Facebook and join a mom or parental group, options exist, always have, always will. They’ve modernized in a sense. Go out in your community and find your community center, see what programs they have.
Classes might help. But the important part is someone with experience doing it for you until you get a hang of it. Someone giving you lession on what to do might give you knowledge but it takes practice, reminders etc. I know you said both is good. I agree with that as things change, some practice in the past might not be good now, but that might also come from every generation resetting the knowledge, if you have generational knowledge passed, and collected and refined with community and science, then the things that work well will stick out longer.
Also, no paternity leave in many places, and short maternity leave (looking at US with zero federally required maternity leave), means people take those for recovery and do not have as much free time before they have the baby.
Also, no paternity leave in many places, and short maternity leave (looking at US with zero federally required maternity leave)
I mean… most of the world has parental leave, it’s literally the US and a few other places with nothing. If they offer maternity, most dual with paternity in some way.
My wife’s parents died 5 years ago in the same year when our first child was 3. I’m not sure how to describe my parents. I have nothing against them. We get along great. They do help, but they are not actively there much, either if that makes sense. Talk on the phone and see each other once a month for family dinner. They will help in an instant if I call them (definitely have a few times) and will watch our children when we need to do something. After that? That’s about it. They were mostly hands off with me as well, and so it’s just who they were. I enjoyed it and loved the freedom. I don’t disagree with the logic either. They did their time and just retired. They spent there life mostly taking care of me, so they deserve some much needed freedom as well to do all the things they never could partially because of me. Some may say it’s not enough, but I don’t feel that way, and I also hope to enjoy my later years just like them. You give up a lot having kids, you also have a life to live as well at some point.
My brother had a kid and I always feel like some out of touch old man when we talk about it. Once he told me todlers can only have distilled water and I had to stop myself from going “Back in my day, my parents gave me tap water and I turned out fine!”
I thought distilled water was bad for humans to consume as it leeches nutrients from you?
That’d be deionized water, I think…
Nope, distilled water has nothing, no minerals or anything else, including ions. Deionized water is also not the best for consumption.
But distilled is perfectly safe to drink… it just tastes weird from the lack of minerals and other stuff.
For once, yes. But exclusively? It’ll extract minerals from your body, causing health issues.
I’ve been exclusively drinking distilled water for half a decade.
It’s fine. Turns out food is also full of minerals and shit.
Especially shit.
Source?
Osmosis
Can’t find it right now, lots of articles online about electrolyte imbalance causing issues, but none linked to an actual source.
You will get water poisoning much faster with distilled water. Some is fine. A lot at once will kill you.
Only if you’re doing EXCESSIVE exercising, and if you are not having electrolyte replacements that’s just negligence.
A lot of tap water will kill you too, your article doesn’t say the difference in the amount.
That’s reverse osmosis water. It’s not dangerous but itself but if you only drink it you may be hydrated but missing essential minerals that you usually get dissolved in water.
I remember hearing the reason DI water may not necessarily be potable js it’s only free of salts/ion and may still have microorganisms or other biologically dangerous contaminates.
There’s a difference between potable and healthy over a long term.
Also, what an excellent example of “community” knowledge basically being a superstition telephone game this thread is.
Dl water?
Like water that I download?
Capital d capital i, its deionised
Tap water doesn’t exactly have loads of electrolytes. I think though the normal advice is to give small children boiled water to protect them from water borne illnesses
It’s probably more important in places with less safe water
Yeah, it’s to protect them from disease. In almost all circumstances a place with tap water from a municipal source is fine.
Premature infants might be advised to only get sterile water for a bit as an extra precaution, and people might also hold off a little longer on well water.
But brawndo had electrolytes. It’s for what plants crave.
I thought that it was deionized water, not distilled water that strips your body from minerals
Both. But distilled is at best ion poor. It’s not recommended use either exclusively for your source of water.
A good filter on tap is enough for the vast majority of houses. If that’s not your case, mineral water or regular bottled water (which is just filtered tap water from a reliable source) are your best bet.
And it’s cheaper too! Not common that you choose both healthy and cheap.
Source? Everyone keeps saying something similar, and when asked for a source, suddenly there isn’t anything.
No one is going to recommend against drinking distilled water solely, because you naturally get minerals and electrolytes elsewhere.
Normally I would go fetch, but there are so many search results. Just search it yourself and choose a source you cash trust. It’s a very well established topic.
I have, and every result says it’s safe. I would love to see an actual source that says otherwise. It’s not going fetch, it’s providing sources for your wild claim that multiple people have been debunking.
Never said it was unsafe, just not recommended. WebMD has links to scientific articles that sorry support that. But you may counter that you don’t trust those sources. I’m not about to play whack a mole. If you want to exclusively drink demineralized water, go ahead, you won’t die for it. But you’ll increase your chances of developing certain diseases. Maybe that’s an acceptable tradeoff for you - I’d certainly think so if you live in Flint.
Neither do that. It’s a complete myth.
It’s baffling you’re getting down voted, you’re 100% correct. It’s nothing but a ridiculous myth that DI or RO water removes anything from your body, it absolutely does not.
What. That can’t be true. Maybe there’s some advantage, like less fluoride etc. But it’s not true they can’t drink rap water…
Maybe they live in Flint Michigan 🤷♂️
Well, sure, not all tap water is potable for adults either. But giving special water to toddlers sounds like overzealous parenting. I rather give tap water, which is totally safe here, than water from a plastic bottle.
I was just being facetious lol.
Not everything that is safe for adults is safe for little ones. Honey, for example, has to be boiled.
While boiling should work the medical recommendation is no honey at all until 1y.
Babies, babies can’t have tap water.
~6 months you start with cooled boiled water.
~12 months you can move onto tap water.
That also depends on where you live and on the quality of the tap water. Doctor here now recommend you to use tap water also for formula - without boiling it first.
Across Europe there’s different recommendations in every country, and no evidence of different illness/mortality rates related to the recommendation.
France says tap water is safe for all ages.
If you’re in the US, I totally get why you might want to keep boiling your water, but remember that boiling doesn’t remove lead.
The US has a water system effectively comparable to the ones across Europe, FYI. That includes lead levels, since it wasn’t just the US that used lead pipes.
In most circumstances lead pipes are safe to replace with different materials as part of routine maintenance. It’s only very notable incidents where things go wrong that have driven a push for greater haste, since it highlighted the consequences of things going wrong.
wait, how did babies back in the day (~1000s years ago) survive?
Sporadically
About half of all children died as children. Which of course means half of all humans who have ever lived, died as children.
(The source is really John Green’s book, Everything is Tuberculosis, this is just an interview with the author where he quotes that.)
By and large, they didn’t
You have 10 or 15 kids and three or four of them will tough it out enough to grow up. There’s a reason the population exponentially exploded around the time antibiotics and vaccines were invented.
Breast milk
On breast milk
Make baby drink boiling water so they’re cool. Got it.
todlers can only have distilled water
I’m pretty sure that’s unhealthy (lack of minerals)
If you only have them distilled water and not the formula you mix into it, then it’s dangerous, but the minerals aren’t the problem there.
That is a myth. Food is the major source for nutritional mineral intake, and purified water does not have any weird “mineral stripping” effect on the body
I stand corrected
you don’t get your minerals from water, you get them from what you eat.
You can drink distilled water if you compensate for the possible demineralization.
If you think that by drinking distilled water, you’re missing out on all the forever chemicals and pesticides; you can still go lick a car tire and be done with it.
Where would that be? Africa?
That’s only if you haven’t blessed the rains down in Africa.
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I once discovered that my moka pot had an industrial grease stuck to it in an area that is almost impossible to clean. I used it so many times before finding that out…
I read the cat mommy’s voice in Princess Caroline’s voice.
Clean your ice machine unless you like to consume mold
Same thing applies to coffee maker / espresso machine tanks. I found a nasty surprise in mine recently…
What if I don’t consume ice?
Clean your mold machine then
Then you’ll have to source your mold elsewhere. Bleu cheese is an option.
All I’ve learned from this tread is that people have some very strange beliefs…
Maybe talk to your DR instead of trusting what people say online.
But I listened to 90 seconds of a podcast from my favorite fitness influencer, so basically I have an MD now, right?
A side-effect of capitalism is the destruction of community. Back in the day when nuclear families weren’t the only kind of family possible, first-time parents leart all of this from their in-laws. But now they need to take parenting classes.
I’m from semi-rural India, and it worked that way when I was a kid, but things are starting to change there as well.
first-time parents leart all of this from their in-laws.
And so much of that was dangerous bullshit, it’s unbelievable. So many children died because of that.
That’s due to the lack of medical knowledge. Even doctors used to recommend dangerous shit back in the day. (Heck, they used to think that babies don’t feel much pain as recently as the 1980s. Archive link.) So, it’s not really an argument against communal knowledge. Also, I’m not arguing against medical help. Everyone should always seek medical help when having kids, but the communal knowledge is necessary as well.
Ah yes the famous learning curve of having to READ the INSTRUCTION BOOKLET of the things you buy
Land sakes ahead, HOW WILL WE MANAGE TO COPE WITH IT ALL
The worst this is that it’s not even a READING thing.
Its a CARING thing.
God-damn, it’s your fucking baby. You wanted it? you should have turned since conception into a linear algebra organic machine, devoted solely to calculating solutions for MIGHT DIE scenarios for your baby, applying n dimensional matrices to explore possibility space
Within the first few years, you should have been able to calculate most obvious scenarios (choking hazards, sand pits, piranhas, etc)
That frees up time to calculate the utmost edge cases ( wormhole traveling, memetic incursions, local brane collapse, and so on)
If you are smart about it, you can find an optimal stock selection strategy algorithm within P-Space
You should print the output in binary tho
You have no kids and probably a man because I bought many sippy cups for my boys and they don’t come with instruction booklets. Most havs if you lucky a tag with no instructions on cleaning them. So shut the fuck up. Besides its a comic and funny and those of us with kids can relate.
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What’s “over-the-counter” merchandise? Isn’t that like, everything in shops? Do you have prescription merchandise? 😂😂
I don’t think you have ever bought a sippy cup. Cheap plastics don’t come with any paper except maybe a tag or sticker with a bar code
And then you guys complain about PFAs, LMAO 🤣
All plastics have the plastic type code embossed on them
I feel my daughter who was a baby in the early 2000s got some plasticisers in her drink bottles before those problem chemicals became widely known, but she was better off than my generation who got worse chemicals because less was known
Dude it’s a silly little comic featuring animal cartoon characters, it does not justify this level of rage.
But snakes can’t wear necklaces, people are such idiots!
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