• I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com@sh.itjust.works
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    9 个月前

    Imagine being able to successfully convince yourself that the existence of defences, and conflict, between neighbouring indigenous nations, is equivalent, to the point of nullifying, sailing around the globe genociding and enslaving its population as you go, for profit.

    White supremacy is a hell of a drug.

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      9 个月前

      You think so?
      I read it as a native american highlighting good points of an already functioning model of civilisation before white men brought them, figuratively and literally, all the misery and disease of their own

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    All of this was false but

    You were exiled or executed so there was no need for jails

    Now you can apply this to the rest

    A barter system != giving things away

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    The number of people that want to quote native Americans and talk about how native Americans were screwed over by the white man and how terrible it is all the things that have been done to them divided by the people in that group who are willing to give up their property and their lives and move back to their ancestral homes is the same as any number divided by 0.

    And I’m saying this as a Lakota man.

    You don’t want to actually do anything about the problem with native americans.

    You just want to feel Superior to other people.

    But don’t get off of your high horse because I’m sure the fall will kill you.

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      If I had money to own land, I’d return it to the appropriate tribe. I’m actively decolonizing my life and support the return of all federal land to tribes along with reparations. Don’t put words in my mouth

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          I’m not doing it because I believe I’m a savior. I’m doing it because it’s the right thing to do. My point is that broad sweeping statements aren’t helpful and efforts to progress AIM and the landback movement are far more worthwhile.

      • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 个月前

        You can start by getting a passport and looking into emigrating away from the United States.

        Edit: well, I guess people don’t like it when I’m flippant, and do like it when db0 condescends to a minority. Good show.

          • bizarroland@fedia.io
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            Then what the fuck are you doing talking about American colonialism when it doesn’t fucking affect you?

            You are very fucking brave taking a stance that other people should do something you yourself are incapable of doing.

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                I don’t know if you’re being obtuse or if you’re just not getting it.

                My statement was that the people who use native American sayings to make themselves feel Superior to other people are fundamentally incapable of putting their money where their mouth is.

                You’re saying “I’m all for other people putting their money where my mouth is” as if that somehow accomplishes anything or refutes my point.

                You don’t seem to understand how stupid/pointless/arrogant/self-serving that is.

            • pyre@lemmy.world
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              imagine thinking American colonialism doesn’t affect anyone outside America. not to mention the person who said they advocated for decolonization didn’t say for America only, so it’s even more absurd. news flash: colonialism affected the entire world.

    • Carnage Sleuth@lemmy.ml
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      First off it is incredible people are using the downvote button as an “I disagree” button even here. Vile fucking people.

      Most efficient way to solve the issue of reparations to descendants of slaves and indians is poverty alleviation programs and land reform, they are disproportionately affected by these things. No more rich men owning forests, even if they do it through “conservation” nonprofits. No more wealth hoarding by white americans who inherited expensive housing from the era of redlining.

      Also minority groups need special political representation in a democracy otherwise it is just wolves voting to have the sheep for dinner.

      This is what they fight tooth and nail because they know who would win from evening the scales.

      White political power is based on hoarding property, money, gerrymandering and preventing campaign finance reform.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
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      A number divided by zero equals infinity.

      Except if it’s zero then (so 0/0) it is either undefined or any number IIRC.

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        If you plot out any number divided by x, as x approaches 0 the answer goes towards Infinity, yes.

        When it reaches zero it ceases to be a number.

        Every number divided by 0 is “undefined”, and it is not undefined because we can’t describe it, it is undefined because it does not exist, because you cannot divide things by 0.

  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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    Kinda weird that everyone had a horse. Considering there where no horses in the Americas before colonialism.

    • OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
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      There were. They just happened to have died out. So, ancient native Americans, potentially horse-knowledgeable, and then they died out 10000 or so years ago.

      Which is an even weirder and more fun fact, an addendum fact.

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    A man’s worth was measured by how good he was at killing the other tribe’s men. So there’s that.

    • Sergio@slrpnk.net
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      9 个月前

      Native Americans weren’t/aren’t some monolithic people. Back then they no doubt had a lot of different ideas on measuring a man’s worth.