And it seems karmacourt will be the first to posit that the fediverse is worth “putting in its place”, going by the upvotes in such an empty community that probably discourages those kinds of suits.
[Sorry for the double comment]
Disclaimers: I’m aware that I might have an incomplete picture of the situation. As such take what I say with a grain of salt, and do call me out if I say something that is bullshit. Also, I’d rather not take intentions into account.
With that out of the way: Kiwi Farms is a cesspool, and I think that Leni should take this whole situation as a wake up call.
That site doesn’t just “happen” to contain harassment; it exists for harassment, even if Leni claims otherwise. It is not for “an angle of freedom of speech”. And even if she’s just there for some popcorn, or to discuss random stuff, clowns only perform where there’s an audience clapping and laughing at their stunts. I don’t know if she actively harassed someone, but she’s still condoning it. It’s still bad.
And, like, I know popcorn is fun, but this sort of site is better treated as “don’t touch it”. GIF related:
[I’m posting this to lighten the mood.]And linking the Fediverse in KF is even worse. The Fediverse hosts lots of disempowered people, often from marginalised groups. Linking it there is the same as saying “hey guys! Here’s a barn full of lolcows!”. Don’t - those people have enough shit to deal with, you’re only making it worse for them.
So, while I personally don’t hold any strong opinion for/against Leni, I do think those instance admins did the right thing - they’re protecting their users.
Oh, of COURSE that’s the user they’re complaining got banned. The Nazi troll with a thousand alts on a dozen sites, all speaking in the same voice to defend her, who has been discussed on this very sub over and over and over. Honestly, I guessed, even before seeing the username in the mod logs.
When an entire multiverse of websites tells you to fuck off, why would you even want to stay?
The fact that they’re suing “the Fediverse” as if it was a monolithic entity is real funny.
Yeah, the whole point of the Fediverse is it’s decentralized. Each instance has its own independent administrators so if you come across an instance you don’t like, you can just post to another one. Lemmy isn’t just one site but hundreds of sites that communicate together.
Context for those unaware:
“A friend of mine” OP is referring to Call Me Leni, who was banned from several instances and communities for being a KiwiFarms member, among other things, and OP has a grudge against the Fediverse for this. Leni shouldn’t have linked their KiwiFarms posts on Lemmy, and linked Lemmy threads talking about them on their KiwiFarms account. That wasn’t very bright of them.
Call me Leni also defended KiwiFarms as a “free speech” site and tried to conflate the hate site with Discord:
I take it OP feels like the Fediverse is violating “free speech” for banning KiwiFarms members.
I hope the Plaintiff knows that the Karma Court is just for the lolz?
I read the first sentence and think that maybe they were doing it to lowkey show that the non-fediverse world (according to them) sees through the fediverse’s claims and motives as dishonest, not so much to sue the fediverse. In other words, a reverse-Streisand, similar to running for office and backing out for the publicity.
If true, the upvotes would suggest their plan is working.
Eh, its only 7 upvotes and only a small amount of comments, so if it was an attempt of smearing the fediverse they failed right on their stupid face.
And literally no one gave a single shit
Someone must’ve considering the engagement for it.
C-SPAN in the middle of the night when Congress isn’t in session gets more engagement than that post.
