• itisileclerk@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    The IDF is actually a military formation specialized in attacking civilians, killing children, committing genocide and other war crimes. Israel is a state that carries out terrorist acts, and the United States is a state that sponsors terrorist formations. This is the harsh truth.

  • Obinice@lemmy.world
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    Interesting way to say a British ship was attacked in International waters.

    Lets sit back and watch my government do fuck all about it.

    Maybe they can give Israel some money to make them feel better? There there poor Israel, the naughty aid workers are in prison now it’s okay that food won’t reach the people that need it, phew that was a close one.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    It’s a tiny boat, the actual aid they could give is very small. This was always about media attention. Of course, they were going to get captured, that was the plan.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      And kidnapped the crew.

      Boy I remember the Houthi headlines. All of those words like “piracy, hijack, armed men, kidnap” etcetera are suddenly nowhere to be found in the media headlines.

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      I think in this case they would be privateers, as they have government backing.

      Semantics though, as privateers are just “pirates with permission to pirate certain groups over others”

      Either way, “criminals and terrorists hijack peaceful convoy bound to deliver aid to genocide victims”

  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    The israeli death forces are world class at targeting unarmed civilians and killing women and children.

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    Ok, add another bunch of people to the ‘Israeli hostages’ count.

    At least they didn’t blow her up, but who knows how much they’ll torture her.

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    Israeli forces would be expected to do this in order to uphold the government’s blockade, and the flotilla crew would know that before going in (that’s why they had prerecorded messages ready). That doesn’t make it any less awful, but they accepted this risk.

    But if this goes sour for Thunberg, it’s going to be a global shitstorm that might finally break through the Israel defenders. I hope nothing happens to the crew and they’re returned safely, and I hope this brings more publicity to what’s occurring.

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      Thunberg is a public figure and that would trigger something if anything were to happen to her (apart from being illegally kidnapped during an act of piracy by a rogue terrorist state). But there is also Rima Hassan on board, a French Palestinian sitting EU representative. The fact that nobody in the EU, and especially France, called Israel out on kidnapping a sitting rep yet is absolutely appalling and terrifying.

      • 4am@lemm.ee
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        France literally issued a condemnation and called for them to all be released.

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          What does strong condemnation accomplish without real actions. In a just world we would have members of each country army protecting the flotilla

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            Well hopefully it will be the start of actions, but I don’t have high hopes.

            Going immediately to counter-assault gives ammo to the freaks who think their actions are justified and they will escalate. Same with the IDF after Oct 6th, same with the US government after gestures broadly literally everything since WWII.

            Real responsibility means making a statement first. Real courage means following through if you get a response you don’t like.

            The first action they took was the correct one. I have little faith they’ll find the courage to take the second one (but I’d love to be proven wrong)

    • 0x0@lemmy.zipOP
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      My only doubt was to whether they’d shoot them down outright (in international waters btw) or arrest them.
      It seems as though the rich white swede is a worthy victim, so they chose the latter. Now they have hostages for closed-door negotiations. Hooray.

      Let’s see what will The World™ do. Cynical be is betting on “not much beyond stern words”.

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    Shocking… That outcome was totally unexpected!!!11111

    In the end, they got what they wanted in the first place… Media attention… We are commenting under a news post.

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      15 hours ago

      No, they wanted their countries to protect them after getting kidnapped and expose the lie that israel isn’t starving palestinians

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        So they wanted media attention by manouvering themselves intentionally into a situation that could cause a diplomatic conflict between Israel and their countries? Or was such a diplomatic conflict the goal?

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          It’s the same as a journalist getting kidnapped in a place of conflict . They did nothing illegal, they so their countries has the responsibility to bring them back by any mean. Don’t blame them if they cause a diplomatic conflict with Israel , a diplomatic conflict with Israel will only be Israel responsibility

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              I already told you the goal but you refuse to acknowledge it . Israel illegally arrested them all you should do qs a decent human being is condemning israel blocking people wanting to send aid to gaza

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      Yeah, anybody acting like this was unexpected and not exactly what they were going for is deluded or is trying to delude somebody…