Please don’t call me that.
And please don’t invite people to meet me, either.
And don’t meat me, either.
This is such a dumb headline
Given how the media and tech bros talk/think about vegans, it’s insulting propaganda.
AI is also just… Trash.
It can’t do my dishes. It can’t vacuum the apartment. It can’t do my laundry. You can’t ask it information because it’ll just be wrong 20% of the time. It can’t automate all the annoying things in my life that get in the way of what I love doing:
Art.
But that’s the one thing that it’s designed to do.
But that’s the one thing that it’s designed to do.
And poorly, and unethically, at that.
Can’t make anything new either, just iterations of what humans came up with.
AI vegans? I’m very much against AI but I’m not a vegan. I wonder if vegans like the term vegan used for this. I think I would be annoyed if I was one too
Vegan here. This is stupid
I think there are multiple levels on which to be annoyed by this article. 😬
This sounds like a marketing attempt to align us modern Luddites with an already established “out group” to build a public perception against abstaining from planet killing slop generators.
Corporate news and media, especially in cases like this, has always been a tool to turn the uninformed public against educated dissenters. They targeted hippies in the 70s for speaking out about the military and prison industrial complexes and this is more of the same. It’s a cheap attack that always works.
I can’t speak for the true motivations of the author of the article. But a lot of what this might accomplish is a lot of in-group fighting. You can already find insults towards vegans in this comment section alone and even more in the original post. And we’re on lemmy, imagine how it will go on reddit or other platforms.
I’ve seen this happen many times. That attempt of binding outgroups backfires to the extent that has people believing it’s engineered by infiltration. I think it’s the shortsighted nature of people that generates this in the end regardless of its initial catalyst point of injection.
The sad and terrifying part is that this always works. Look how many comments this thread already has here on Lemmy. Even when we know it all too well, we can’t help but to chime in. Even the ones who are trying to “put out the fire”, get caught by the same net. Myself included.
Vegans are against animal cruelty and exploitation. While there certainly overlap between AI and side effects impacting animals (like sucking up all the fucking water), i think this is a pretty gross title and using the term vegan for any other cause is stupid/ sensationalist.
They basically are going with “vegan means they don’t eat animal byproducts so an AI vegan doesn’t use AI”. But if you just are not eating animal byproducts then you’re just on a diet and are not Vegan. So i can only assume AI Vegan, if “vegan” was used correctly here, would mean you’re against AI cruelty and exploitation. I don’t think that’s what you guys are about
But stupid titles like this get reactions which is what they want
Comparing not using a computer program to abstaining from killing lmao
I like AI Luddite better.
This opinion piece is shit and it is pathetically trying to bring the term “AI Vegan” in vogue. This article adds nothing else to the conversation except regurgitating old shit.
Vegan? Gross. I prefer to be called an AI Luddite, thankyouverymuch.
I prefer to call “AI”, “trash”.
As someone who practices both of these concerns, I really don’t understand the name.
And I must add that as a veteran of the other movement, when you say “I am” you are creating a distinguishable sense of otherness in relation to others. I also practice “Zero Waste” but I don’t call myself a “Zero Waster” (which is also never zero) or announce myself as an “Environmentalist” either.
These self ascribed descriptors are always a mistake. Yes, I do believe that everyone should share these concerns to the best of their abilities and what their setting and context allows, but in the end there is nothing different about me or anyone else who shares these same concerns.
As someone who disapproves of how A.I. is being built and used, and that its cost from an environmental concern to a societal concern, has the hazards far outweighing the benefits in both, there’s still no need to call us here anything for having that concern, is there?
But I’m going to share a piece of wisdom that I’ve gotten from practicing the other ethical concerns.
“Convenience” is what is gonna destroy the whole world.
And I’ve been saying this for almost two decades now. Most people will always choose convenience regardless of the consequences.
This is not gonna be any different.
The most successful way we can check this new mess is by attacking with legislation and regulations that are currently almost nowhere to be seen.
Most will never care much to consider the consequences of their decisions or actions. We don’t need a descriptor for that either. Is just what it is.
The scariest part of A.I. is that it consumes the enormous amounts of energy it does and enormous quantities of water we don’t have, only to optimize the efficency and rate in how all other hazards occur, as production and consumption of everything is increased in a blink.
And from a meta-space perspective it is horrifying to ponder what is to come because of it.
“Convenience” is what is gonna destroy the whole world.
This very thought ran through my head not 48 hours ago. I’m a little creeped out. 😬
Hahaha
Not at all. It makes me feel less alone when that happens.
But, yeah, two decades of environmental and Animal Rights activism have thought me that my arguments can never compete with convenience.
My conversations regarding A.I. go the same way.
The Guardian is supposedly “left” and yet they’re following the scripts handed down by right wing extremist techbrodudes.
It’s almost as if its “leftism” is like most “leftism” in the anglosphere: complete and utter performative bullshit.
I don’t use “AI” cause chat bots are stupid. AI has been fine for decades, the cars in Gran Turismo had sufficient AI to drive around the track. This modern definition is just horse shit for another attempt at Silicon Valley to claim they are superior than every other industry. Sam Altman is a fraud and modern “AI” gobeldyguk.
I’m vegan btw.
(fuck AI too)
AI and the News Industry: How The Guardian’s OpenAI Deal Signals a New Era.
The Guardian Media Group has entered into a strategic partnership with OpenAI, integrating its journalism into ChatGPT and rolling out AI-powered tools across its operations.
Completely non-biased on this subject I am sure.
Look at those weird hairshirters abstaining from the basics of modern life like vibe coding, bot art and the smooth sounds of The Velvet Sundown. I mean, what a bunch of freaky cultists, right?
Not all instances of refusing something bad are of the same class.
