• Tarkcanis@lemmy.world
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    This has been comming since 2002/2003 DHS was a huge fucking mistake, and should have been shut down ages ago.

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    Holy shit. Goon squads. They don’t even identify themselves??

    Imagine a hypothetical scenario where a group of random citizens gang up on an ICE agent during their Sunday stroll and handcuff them, and throw them off a bridge somewhere, handcuffs still on.

    How would a sheriff know that they aren’t ICE agents themselves? Or are we going by skin colour?

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        He “fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE”. Clearly, they saw someone with brown skin and went from there. This clearly demonstrates the incompetence and hatred of those directing and working for ICE.

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      They don’t ID themselves and show a warrant? Fight back. Fuck it. Nothing to lose now. Never go with feds quietly.

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          At least if you assault an officer, you then get an actual court date and get to go to jail, rather than El Salvador.

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          If you’re being apprehended by ICE, you’re almost certainly losing some of those no matter how you respond. I don’t know that you’ve got better chances if you fight back alone, but if people around you join in and try to unarrest you, you might have a shot at going home that evening.

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            If you’re the one guy being arrested, fighting against 10 agents will only get you bruises and additional charges.

            If you’re one of the witnesses the chances of unarresting someone are slim and the chances of going to jail are big. I would admire anyone who’s brave enough to do it but sad truth is that there are very few people like that out there.

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              Sure, but if I’m going to be kidnapped and sent to a black box prison to die, I don’t know if I would care much about that.

              Bystanders who are obviously white and documentably citizens are in the best position to try to unarrest people, if they can. It’s not illegal to prevent a kidnapping if you can, and a group of people who don’t show a warrant or identify themselves taking someone off the street against their will is a kidnapping.

              I’m aware that it requires bravery and has very serious potential consequences, but I cannot emphasize enough that just because a person is not currently the target of this type of violence, does not mean that they can stay uninvolved. I understand not wanting to do it, but it’s like not wanting to go to the doctor about a sketchy mole because you’re afraid of hospitals.

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              Nope. Fighting will get me killed. I ALWAYS have a knife on me. I’ll take at least two of the shit stains with me though. I know lots of places to strike where you will bleed out in less than a minute.

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                No you won’t. Knives are s shit weapon. You pull it , you get shot.

                Smoke and fear are far more potent weapons.

                Can’t apprehend what you can’t see

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      We need to stop respecting their authority or it will never stop. The thing is people obey when they say “stay back” or we’re going to arrest you” - then these mere men / cowards get the power trip they enjoy.

      Fuck Ice.

      We need to fight them as having no authority when they operate against the constitution / judges orders.

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    First we created the technology to spread misinformation and hyper tailored propaganda to uneducated people and now that same technology to watch how that propaganda is rotting society to the core.

    I can’t even imagine how massive the reset will have to be after this, but every day I can see a bit clearer how things like Atlantis may have happened.

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    As a European I don’t understand what ICE is. Is it the police ? Or can I run away and not submit to their authority? Are their just some sort of Hitler’s SA squads or more like Gestapo?

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      It’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They’re a law enforcement branch focusing on people and arterial entering the country. They should be focusing on human traffic and smuggling, but they’ve been turned into a gestapo.

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        So the whole situation in the US happens because those hogs don’t have any uniform or legal ground to do what they do right ?

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    I’m not from the US, so I’m mega confused… Why are they allowed to take this person after the case was dismissed?

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      Legally they’re not. That’s why they’re masked. That’s why the protests, the complaints, the articles about fascism. The current regime somehow holds themselves above the law, above the Constitution, above human rights. It a combination of a power grab by extremists in the executive branch, collusion from legislature and personal favors in the judicial. Sometimes it really looks like our entire national leadership should be in jail or worse.

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      If this is the same thing I’m thinking of, the case was to be allowed to immigrate in the US. It was dismissed, so they were no longer legally in the country.

      It’s rancid bullshit that they were instantly detained, of course, but** there is a logic to it.

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        I’m skeptical. There are documented cases where ICE abducts people literally on their way to be sworn in as US citizens and deports them. Despite what they say, they don’t care about people immigrating here legally, it’s all about racism.

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    Hello, this is POTUS, gimme a large Distraction with extra Outrage. Last week’s bill didn’t go down well, so let’s fuck with some brown people in LA and NY.