“Imagine how much worse it would have been if it was women?”
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— voters who choose GOPI can’t imagine.
Can you mansplain?I wouldn’t elect you for any reason whatsoever.
oops, I dropped my
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So the reason why they’re so against women, gay, drag, trans was that they want to be the only drama queens around?
You hit the nail on the head.
Projection is a requirement to be part of the GOP
Nominate a woman that people actually want to be president and then maybe we can talk.
AOC, for example, is filling football stadiums in red states.
And make sure they’re not flagrantly carrying water for a genocidal ethnostate during the run up to the election. Preferably they will be sane and won’t support that kind of thing at all. But this is America, we’re currently being led by a dementia addled gameshow host. Sanity is sadly not a prerequisite for the job.
The problem with AOC though is her name sounds like an acronym, which makes her sound like an institution (like a super PAC). It’s a dumb thing to complain about but affects people’s first impressions if they aren’t obsessively researching candidates.
I had to look up what TDS is and for others, it’s short for “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, an epithet MAGA put on people they don’t like to insinuate that they fear Trump and his ilk.
I assumed it was some ketamine side effect.
They also wanted to define this as an actual mental illness, because psychiatric care already isn’t weaponized against people with politically inconvenient views in the US enough.
because psychiatric care already isn’t weaponized against people with politically inconvenient views in the US enough
Holy shit I have never seen another person acknowledge this before, wild! And I should have by now considering I bring it up a decent bit (it’s actually the biggest reason I don’t support “mental health checks” for gun purchases, as it would be weaponized against trans people immediately like they already do with purchase/carry permits against black people. And don’t think Dems are going to help with that at all, they’ll actively help the republicans suppress minority gun rights just because “gun bad,” doubly so because they also have recently abandoned trans people. And imo trans would only be first, who knows what group would be next.) It just gives them another avenue to deny rights to people they don’t like.
Being trans alone = “mental illness.” I had a voluntary stay upgraded to involuntary when I tried to leave (after realizing that they had no intention of actually helping me.)
“Oh, you are feeling suicidal because the president is a FUCKING RAPIST? Let’s get you fired from your job and lock you in a room where people can misgender and physically assault you.”
Anger isn’t an emotion - it’s alpha male psychology, or something? Honestly I lost track while laughing as two of the worst people on Earth started going at each other like a pair of angry cats.
How is anger not an emotion?
That was sarcasm.
You know how parts of the manosohere like to claim men are the voice of reason incarnate and women shouldn’t be trusted with any responsibility because they’re too emotional?
Part of that facade is to act like anger isn’t an emotion, because when they suppress “unmanly” emotions like sadness and fear, they tend to channel them into anger instead.
Well fuck, when you put it that way, I will not only upvote this, but change my previous down vote to an upvote as well, and then jerk off. That last part is unrelated to your explanation, just thought you’d like my schedule for the day, starting now.
I literally never seen anybody say this outside of left wing people online complaining about people supposedly saying it like it’s an epidemic.
If the only takeaway that the Democrats have from the 2024 election is that they lost because of racism and sexism then they’re cooked.
Your life experiences don’t necessarily reflect those of everyone else, FYI. I’ve seen and heard this or some other "women are too emotional/illogical/irrational/cryptic/ect too many times.
There are relatively recent studies/surveys, like this one (PDF) that suggest that a pretty significant portion of the population still feel women are too emotional to be in politics. 13% as of 2019 in that one.
While I’d think—or at least hope—that this is still going down overall, the rise in conservativism is definitely slowing the decline.
But your study proves my point though. The percentage was 13% across all demographics back in 2018 when the study was conducted. If you actually look at at the graphs, they all show a pretty significant and stead drop over the decades. Well, 2018 was 7 years ago, so if project the data to the modern day, it’s very likely that figure is in the single digits now.
Even if we assume that the data remained steady since then, which it probably hasn’t, then that means at least 87% of the population don’t hold this view. That’s not just a majority, that’s an overwhelming majority. So while my experience is ancedotal, this shows that my experiences are actually unique but a part of much bigger societal trend.
If you actually look at at the graphs, they all show a pretty significant and stead drop over the decades.
if you actually read my comment, I’ve already mentioned its decline. maybe you need a refresher. :)
means at least 87% of the population don’t hold this view.
thanks. believe it or not, I do know how percentages work. But at no point did I claim that most of the population feels this way.
A group of people doesn’t have to be a majority to be statistically significant. If 13% of people suddenly woke up with arms growing from the tops of their heads, you’d be noticng them all the damn time, unless you’re a recluse.
This absolutely has a real-world effect on who is voted into office, especially when you also consider which demographics vote. And consequently, less exposure to women in politics in office = a slower rate of acceptance of them.
Not to mention, again, the rise of conservatism that is certainly not helping the matter.
So while my experience is ancedotal, this shows
Yeah so as I mentioned, I’ve had a different experience. Are you a woman? Do you frequently seek out discussions about/research on/history of women? gender studies? inequality?
Because otherwise, there’s no wonder why you haven’t experienced what I have.
Your experience doesn’t show anything. Neither does mine, because anecdotes are not, nor ever will be, valid evidence of anything useful in discussions about social or political issues.
A group of people doesn’t have to be a majority to be statistically significant. If 13% of people suddenly woke up with arms growing from the tops of their heads, you’d be noticng them all the damn time, unless you’re a recluse.
The central issue issue here revolves around whether or not this is percentage is significant. You specifically said that this figure is statistically significant, which means it’s calculated somewhere, right? Is this something that’s calculated in the report? Did you calculate yourself? If so what was the chosen neutral baseline?
If there are no calculations and this is just your opinion, then I gotta say that I disagree with you. Your making the assumption that the 13% behave as a bloc, which doesn’t sound likely.
For example, it is highly unlikely that everybody who holds this opinion is a registered or active voter. According to the Census Bureau, in the 2024 election, 73.6% of eligible voters were registered and only 65.3% were registered to vote. It’s also likely that many of the people who hold this opinion are still willing to vote for women candidates even if they prefer male candidates. According to a 2019 Gallup survey, 94% of Americans were willing to vote for a female president.
This conclusion is further strengthened by the survey you shared because it showed that this 13% isn’t made up of just a few demographics, but rather it’s spread across all demographics. Considering how different demographics vote very differently in elections, it is very unlikely that this 13% has the ability to sway elections as you seem to imply… unless you have evidence to show that it does.
Your experience doesn’t show anything. Neither does mine, because anecdotes are not, nor ever will be, valid evidence of anything useful in discussions about social or political issues.
Okay, that is fair. However, we’re using actual data now, and the data seems to indicate that my original assumption is correct. This is something that’s rare in our society.
