Do these people not understand what illegal immigrant meant? It means not a US citizen, not documented here, no VISA.

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    29 days ago

    Can we point out the obvious? Farmers rely on exploiting desperate migrant workers in violation of labor laws. Milk should cost more than it does, because it is perishable and labor intensive to produce.

    It is not a good thing that ICE is sending people to death camps, nor is it ok that we are abandoning the rule of law to do it. But those are the victims. The farmers who have lower profits because they can no longer access illegally cheap labor are the real criminals.

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      29 days ago

      They’ve been deporting those who are there legally too.

      With an insufficient workforce, pay rates going up isn’t necessarily enough to get you workers. Moving regions to get a new job isn’t usually cheap or fast.

      I don’t know if the previous pay rates were illegally low (the US’s definition of illegally low is itself low), but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they couldn’t & wouldn’t pay ~$20-30/h if there were workers available.

      Going from a labour-cheap world to a labour-expensive world also implies that people want to increase mechanisation and automation, and that’s not cheap or fast either.

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    29 days ago

    And yet the article closes with a farmer saying he’d vote for Trump again, despite the destruction of his labor force and the damage to his livelihood. The cultists are sick.

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      29 days ago

      That’s why I feel zero empathy with them. After all these years I think I figured it out.

      It’s a kink. A masochistic one.

      The general conservative wants to get fucked, hard. Like break my choker through my ass kind of hard. That’s why they voted Trump twice into office. They acted as if they cared about political correctness or Mexicans or Trans people or whatever show they put up to be angry about nowadays. Everything a lie. It’s only about being daddy’s little slut. And like the common Twitter Weeb, they want to make their fuck fantasy everyone else’s problem too.

      Don’t believe me? Then explain this article. I wait.

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        27 days ago

        Your guilty conscience may force you to vote Democratic, but deep down inside, you secretly long for a cold-hearted Republican to lower taxes, brutalize criminals and rule you like a king!

        A Simpsons joke from 31 years ago. The more things change the more they stay the same.

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        29 days ago

        Yup. MAGAs want to be RULED. They’ve always wanted a mommy and daddy figure to tell them what to do, because thinking for themselves just makes their pore heds hurt sumpthin’ awful.

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        29 days ago

        I’m not even sure why you’re mad at the above poster. It doesn’t look like they had a chance to disagree with your point even. If anything it looks like they are on the same page as you. Who is it exactly you’re challenging and why?

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          29 days ago

          I am not? I know we are on the same page? I vented, but not at him. I am sorry if my comment appeared as such.

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            29 days ago

            So are you are using ‘?’ Here Because you’re not asking a question? Is this how you express emotions instead of asking questions?

            I can’t see your face or hand gestures or tone so emotion doesn’t convey very well in text form on it’s own. the end part looked like you were demanding an answer from someone. At first I wasn’t sure who that was directed at given everyone is on the same page here. I was expecting you were using punctuation the same as it was intended for communicating. Now I can’t understand if you’re angry, asking questions, or making demands. Or if you’re some sort of shitty AI bot glitching.

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              28 days ago

              Something I said must have triggered you. Or you are unbelievably dense. One way or another: Didn’t read lol.