So according to the ethics of veganism it’s about valuing sentient life and animal consent.

So I pose a few questions.

  1. Is it justified to buy animal based dog and cat food?

  2. Is it justifiable to force a dog or cat to be vegan?

If 1 is justifiable then the claim that it’s unethical for humans to eat meat is untrue since feeding your pets meat requires more animals to be raised for slaughter.

If 2 is true then it violates animal consent because there are zero dogs or cats that prefer vegan food to meat and infact are naturally omnivorous in the case of dogs or pure carnivores in the case of cats.

So the logical conclusion would be owning meat eating pets in impossible while being vegan.

Then it leads to the ethics of what happened to the breeds of cats and dogs no longer able to be pets.

  • Longpork3@lemmy.nzEnglish
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    2 个月前

    Scenario 1: you leave the dog at the shelter and it eventually gets killed.

    Scenario 2: you bring the dog home and feed it so that it doesn’t get killed.

    I don’t see any ethical issue with my dogs eating the same foods I do. Why would i order the deaths of other animals for the sake of their taste buds?

    • GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      2 个月前

      I don’t see any ethical issue with my dogs eating the same foods I do.

      Dogs can’t eat grapes, onions, garlic, cashews, almonds, chocolate etc. There’s some pretty big ethical issues feeding your dogs the same food you eat.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 个月前

        Dogs totally can. They are omnivores like us and evolved alongside us. Obviously they’d eat meat if given the choice so it’s still a restrictive diet that they never got to choose for themselves, and that’s an ethical minefield for vegans, but they can totally live on plants.

        Cats are carnivores. I don’t think they can live a full healthy life without at least some meat.

        • jol@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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          2 个月前

          Pets don’t get to choose what they eat, vegan or otherwise. Most pets thrive just fine on eating more or less the same couple foods all their life. “forcing therm” to eat vegan food is ethically the same as “forging them” to eat regular kibble.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 个月前

            Right, because pets are not free to make their own choices. They’re property.

            That’s the ethical minefield I was talking about.

            • jol@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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              2 个月前

              That a dumb take. Small children are also not free to pick the food they eat. Their parent chose their food. Are children property? If that’s a minefield, it’s a pretty weak one.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                2 个月前

                When parents decide to deprive their children of vaccines, or block them from gender affirming care, or use corporal punishment, or any other things that “parental rights” freaks believe in- what do you think that is?

                A huge portion of people consider children to be property, they want the right to control their children and to abuse them however they want.

                • jol@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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                  2 个月前

                  Those things are actively harming children. Supplemented vegan food is not like being violent to pets.