• gwilikers@lemmy.ml
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    Wdym? ICE is a terrorists cell.

    Terrorism is the collective use of violence to achieve social and political aims.

    State mandated violence should not be treated as ‘special’. This obviously applies if you’re a based anarchist. It also applies if you’re liberal.1 Since state mandated violence trampling the rights of individuals should be something you’re opposed to if you’re in any way ideologically consistent

    Therefore ICE are terrorists. And they’re not the cool kind either.


    1. In the classic, Harriet Taylor / John Stuart Mill, sense. If you’re a neolib, you can go fuck yourself.
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      5 days ago

      I can tell this one is an onion because ICE already is a terrorist cell. Why would they need to join another one?

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    I’m noticing a trend whenever something evil happens that was caused by Christian theocrats, Americans feel the need to compare them to fascist “Islamist” groups.

    what’s the point when you’d have much more impact focusing on your homegrown fascists? I’m not saying people can’t criticize Hamas, but it amounts to nothing more than posturing because they’re not in charge of your society.

    maybe the joke would work better if you replaced Hamas with IOF soldiers because American cops actually do have institutional collaborations with them at all levels.

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      While yes there is certainly an aspect of islamophobia there, it also isn’t necessarily drawing attention away from the fascists, and moreso pointing out how fascist they are to culturally commonly understood ‘bad people’.

      And for the record I haven’t seen any comparisons to Hamas, if anything more references to the IDF and the cops/Ice putting the tactics and weapons developed by the IDF for Gaza into practice on the American people.

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      I think it’s an apt comparison, as they’re both religious right wingers who commit acts of terror. People struggle to understand these things within their society, so using an example from the outside helps put things in perspective.

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      How many Americans even know what IOF is?

      We’ve been demonizing Islamic groups with media coverage since… Desert storm?