• epicstove@lemmy.ca
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    9 days ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong, my knowledge of this history is iffy at best,

    Iirc, Early Judaism wasn’t monotheistic like it, Christianity, and Islam are now.

    The people at the time had multiple gods, one of which was a minor god associated with storms. At some point this god was boosted into popularity and became the primary god of the old testament and eventually THE god of the 3 Religions.

    The line being written like this could be a holdover from this extremely early culture which was initially Polytheistic.

    OR it’s just a funky translation and just ment to mean “Don’t worship someone as a God like their any better than me.THE God.”

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      Yeah, there’s a bit of a discussion about this further down the thread. Yahweh was originally some sort of god of war (and maybe storms? See the great flood), but as his worship became more prominent he assumed the attributes (and name, even) of the chief god of the pantheon, El.

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    Yaweh was one of the sons of El in Caananite religion, which has the same Noah myth, and the religion/people is based on one of his son’s decendants. El was accepted by Greeks as the same god as Zeus. Many other Caananite polytheistic gods had Greek equivalents.

    When Moses wrote the tablets, he was basically doing a religious coup to claim the Hebrew/Israelite “subgod” was the primary god. Denouncing Idolatry, and “thou shalt not covet” was also a rebelion against the main/historical Phoenecian/Caananite religion to when Israelites war against Phoenecians “do not covet their idols, destroy them”.

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      9 days ago

      “when Moses wrote the tablets”

      The historical context here is really interesting, but this line is a head scratcher. A) god didn’t write the tablets, Moses did it himself, B) tacit support for historicity of Moses. It’s like not the religious viewpoint, but not the secular one either. Though I may be splitting hairs about a nonessential clause here.

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        1. religion is capable of inventing a god that doesn’t exist.
        2. Israelites needed a propaganda boost to rebel against Phoenecians, and offshoot religion helps.
        3. Elders that went up to the mountaintop with Moses can unanimously be on board with Hasbara to fuel war against Phoenicians. Ends justify the lie.
        4. Yaweh becomes supreme god, and Phoenicians deserve death for failing to accept all commandments. Including/especially the very weird idolatry one, that gods would typically accept as narcissistic reverence. Thou shalt kill all heretics.
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    I’m into decolonization of Christianity, and one thing that’s really interesting is how saints were used by conquered peoples to preserve their gods and cultural practices i.e. syncretism. That’s one of the reasons Catholicism has remained more prominent than Protestantism in Latin America.

    Catholicism outside of the Vatican is peganism and animism and ancestor worship with the labels scratched off.

    And I’m mature enough in my atheism (really, post-atheist) to think that’s actually really cool.

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        Recognizing that religion had an important place in the historical development of society (culture, government, labor, ownership, law, family, etc) and that being religious has a material basis that exists outside of our own ability to choose our beliefs.

        Atheism isn’t a choice. Theism isn’t a choice. They are just products of our material conditions.

        So, I don’t try to convince anyone about atheism; I’m honestly somewhat jealous that religious people can still believe in anything.