And now we get to the point of the meeting.
Air force?? Haven’t they been fully run by evangelicals for like, 20 years already?
I’ve had spoiled petulant toddler bosses myself and I’ve done the same thing.
You don’t have to put up with some idiot fool who got that position through nepotism or stupidity or both telling you, a trained experienced professional, how to do your job.
Peace the fuck out.
I don’t blame him. No one wants to deal with this shit. We all (USA Citizens) have a responsibility to do something. But I don’t blame him for getting out now.
Damn it stay and endure… somone needs to step up in 3 years.
the CIA realised the empire was unsustainable and decided that their final regime change would be a US military coup. Keep up the good work agent Hegseth.
I’m simultaneously baffled and infuriated by all of the people who are “resigning in protest”.
Like, holy fuck, why are you making it easy for them? Dig your heels in. Nickel-and-dime the bureaucracy. Lean into the minutiae. Get the noncoms to maliciously comply on as many points as possible. Intentionally be inefficient. Throw sand in the gears, and sugar in the gas tank. Drop a bolt somewhere, and “forget” to spot it on FOD walkdown. Over torque. Under torque. Cross thread with ugga dugga. Misalign. There are a SHITLOAD of places where intentional inefficiency can be employed in a defensible fashion. Misinterpret orders. Don’t correct typos and errors, and just do whatever as-written, with minimum effort lip-service. Make it hard for them to take over. Genuinely, why are these approaches not being used more aggressively? I’m completely fucking flummoxed.
You know it’s infinitely more likely that those that stick around are going to just take part in atrocities and not actually resist them right? Whatever you think about the law abiding people who try to change the system from within they almost never actually do it they just prolong the system and legitimize the system.
Honestly, dishonorable discharge technically allows for a death sentence. If Trump orders a general to shoot American civilians and he refuses, that’s treason, so can be death sentence’d. I’d want to avoid the situation too.
Now if that ACTUALLY happened, at least which ever general with balls gets unalived is going to be a martyr and hopefully a symbol for the resistance. So it takes one guy to take that bullet and the country may never be the same. So I hope someone will do that instead of quitting.
You only need to follow lawful orders. Ordering the murder of civilians is not lawful. Because the act of murdering civilians is illegal.
We’re talking Trumpistan, not the United States of America tho.
Well in this made up world they can just shoot trump too right? Why are we all acting like the law is already over?
I mean, look around? Not saying people are not at risk of the law, but the rule of law is dead in the us.
And yet judges keep ruling and the administration backs down. The concentration camp in Florida, closed. I’m not saying they aren’t flouting it left and right, but it is still there and people are recording what they are doing for when they get thrown out.
You still have ice out masked in force, still have camps, still have tarriffed the world, still have open bribery, and still have chilling lawsuits against media. All of which was ruled not cool by judges at some point, and either just done anyway or overruled at the supreme court.
unalived
Quit it. You’re not some vapid influencerati on YouTube
I forgot “vapid influencerati” even use that term, I first heard it on reddit years ago when someone thought it was funny. I swear there was more funny/interesting context to the post that I don’t remember anymore. It was before mass censorship of “bad words” was so prolific. People were still using “kill”, “fuck”, “shit” etc.
The president can’t force a general to do that.
Nobody fucking knows the law anymore -_-
Explain ICE’s actions. Explain them now!
All of these illegal actions by ice sure as fuck are going to get investigated when the adults get back in power.
The law doesn’t matter anymore. It’s been established by the supreme court that a sitting republican president can break any law.
If it doesn’t matter anymore then ignore the fascists and tell them no.
You really like this “comply in advanced out of fear” rhetoric don’t you?
It’s not complying if you resign. Difference is whether you’re replaced after refusing to kill people or before - but you’ll be replaced and the next guy will kill people regardless. If you quit before as a high profile individual, you can signal that something is off. If you don’t quit, you may get martyr’d. Which I think most people don’t want, especially anyone with family.
Worse, an insider reports that the generals were all monitored for signs of discomfort and disapproval during the speech. They’re being watched. Anyone not loyal to Trump first and foremost, is going out. Anyone who actually disobeys orders may or may not find their family deported to South America, Africa, whereever, as terrorists. I suspect some of these generals are currently more afraid for their families than you are.
Nah this mentality of capitulating to fascists is a stupid and cowardly way to think.
Like I said, these people have families. That specific general said he’s retiring “because of family matters”.
The fuck kinda father is going to put his own children and (if he has them) grandchildren into danger?
Nobody fucking knows the law anymore -_-
Problem is, neither do the judges it seems. I wouldn’t be surprised if something almost as bad as this happens, and the courts side with Trump and friends.
The courts are not siding with Trump most of the time.
The rulings don’t stop him.
We shouldn’t let them stop us either.
Isn’t it the judges who would then issue orders of contempt, or whatever it’s called, calling for the arrest of people who don’t follow their rulings?
~Not rhetorical.~
Itt would be an “official act.” This one can as long as the DOJ can weaponize against enemies of fascism
Watch
Wow what a good peasant you are!
The general would face a court martial or whatever that process is that could lead to a death sentence, and if that process results in a death sentence for refusing to shoot American citizens then absolutely nothing matters.
Then the general should defend the constitution more directly and aggressively.
That’s the the thing, they won’t be “american citizens” they will be radical ANTIFA terrorists, so it will be okay to shoot them
This is s bummer because we need people who will refuse to do what Trump is asking the military to do and resist him.
Yup. Make them make you leave. Hell, make them drag you out of your office, make them tell your soldiers to disregard your orders, make them work like HELL for it all if you think what’s happening is disgusting, because I guarantee they’re going to fish for someone who’s OK with dropping nukes on Tehran, who’s fine with the military’s guns being turned on the public.
Part of the strategy.
Those against or new world order will quit.
We can then replace them with the cherries WE pick now.
Coward.
A real general would’ve fragged the Nazis
A real american would’ve fragged the Nazis
Throw a punch. Be obstinate and get fired. Anything.
Pull a gun, kill a bunch of them. Anything.
While I don’t really give a shit about US military officers, it really is wild how much the admin and right wing at large has swallowed their own propaganda. Insulting and pissing off your top military command is the exact opposite of what you ever want to do. I listened to him speak, and it really was like he was at Trump rally, rambling about how gay, woke, and weak the military was, to the completely silent high command. He was also incapable of reading the room and realizing no one was clapping, no one was excited.
They’re so fucking stupid.
First victim of the general staff purges
bro didnt want to shave i guess
Crap
It should be plural
They need to be acting and coordinating en masse. A principled retirement or order refusal every once in a while won’t meaningfully impact fascism.
